Taking days waiting for a transfer or external bill payment to be processed and deducted from my account
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myturn19Apr 1, 2026
+52
This isn’t accidental. It’s structured that way so banks can analyze your behavior, make financial decisions ahead of you, and position themselves to benefit first, especially when it comes to investments.
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MrEvilFoxApr 1, 2026
+1
Confidently incorrect material.
Most delays are to fulfill regulatory KYC and AML rules.
1
chthApr 1, 2026
+1
Maybe for high value customers that might apply but things like wire transfers take time for security reasons over anything else most often. KYC in multiple stages on both ends if everyone is doing their job properly plus time to process It all.
Every once in a while I’ll send a wire for a customer and they will be back in branch half an hour later asking why it hasn’t hit the recipient yet, meanwhile the branch manager probably won’t approve it until the end of the day when he has time to make sure everything is compliant before he sends it off.
1
SirGlassApr 1, 2026
+1
Banks really cannot invest , banks make loans thats about it. In the USA
1
joepezApr 1, 2026
+1
That’s not true. The Gramm-Leach-Bailey act signed by Clinton repealed those restrictions and US banks can have investment arms.
However the settlement of funds has little to do with behavioral analytics and everything to do with an outdated system for funds settlement that enables intermediaries and banks to have free float on the funds being settled.
1
AidenTaiApr 1, 2026
+1
Then can have investment arms / branches though. Just not the same legal entity. And they can pass along information to those (or sell it off) if they wish.
1
yippyippoApr 1, 2026
+1
That my bank's app can recognize my face in 0.3 seconds but if I want to deposit a check over $2,000 I have to speak to a human named Carol who works exactly 9:15 to 4:45, takes a 90-minute lunch, and has already judged me by my tone at 8:47 AM.
1
Jessica-GrahamaApr 1, 2026
+124
Wire transfers costing $25-35 is insane to me. It's literally just moving numbers between computers, why does that cost more than my lunch
124
jcmushApr 1, 2026
+60
Instant and free in the UK
60
1stMammaltowearpantsApr 1, 2026
+37
Oh, look who's on the Internet having a functional gub'mint! Well, laa-dee-da! Must be frickin' nice
37
OmnitographerApr 1, 2026
+12
They did have a Brexit though, I think that negates the free wire transfers and then some.
12
smaug_pecApr 1, 2026
+1
They’re not the only ones though.
https://youtu.be/qa102Gb-AI8
1
aqsgamesApr 1, 2026
+8
Instant and free in the UK and getting better. The whole Open Banking project is about enabling not just moving cash quickly and easily, but all the other infrastructure stuff like checking the account you are sending money to us legit, like almost instant know your customer, all sorts of stuff
Oh, and making it easier for new banks to enter the market and encourage the old big four to pull their socks up and make better customer products
8
ya_bleedin_gicknaApr 1, 2026
+5
Same here
5
romario77Apr 1, 2026
+3
There are ways to do it for free or cheaper, but yeah, shouldn’t be this expensive or long.
International transfers are still expensive too.
3
im_thatoneguyApr 1, 2026
+1
Remitly and Wise are pretty c****.
Wise is about \~0.5%
1
ImmediateRaisin5802Apr 1, 2026
+1
Certified check too
1
Prof_Scott_SteinerApr 1, 2026
+74
days/weeks to process a refund/credit but payments are instantaneous
It's up there with how oil is a futures commodity, and the price of gas at the pump should reflect the price of WTI six weeks ago.--and it does when the price per barrel drops, but when it spikes, suddenly gas has immediate volatility. Absolute bullshit where these fuckers have fixed the market to have it both ways
74
iammxyzptlkApr 1, 2026
+19
First, love the name, he follows me on X and I feel privledged.
I totally agree. Even deposits (made in building and as cash) get put into the account after each and every withdraw on the account.
19
Prof_Scott_SteinerApr 1, 2026
+4
The numbers don’t lie
4
Engelbert-n-ErnieApr 1, 2026
+1
HE’S FAT
1
Head_Razzmatazz7174Apr 1, 2026
+1
My credit union is usually pretty good at putting in my deposits ahead of my withdrawals. The few times I had an overdraft it was totally my fault for not paying attention to my available balance.
1
OmnitographerApr 1, 2026
+8
Payments are instant *from* you, they are not instant *to* the business. When doing a refund you and the business get the same experience as a purchase, but in reverse.
8
Prof_Scott_SteinerApr 1, 2026
-2
Yes, because neither of us in this example own the means of production (financial services).
-2
hangenderApr 1, 2026
+21
Ach money xfer. Like wtf is this 5 days wait time rofl.
21
Agitated-Box-4625Apr 1, 2026
+12
They take the money to the new bank via stagecoach.
12
ThinButton7705Apr 1, 2026
+4
And here I thought, the wells fargo logo was only for show.
4
SirGlassApr 1, 2026
+1
USA issue . Most other countries including non-developed countries have had almost instant bank transfers for the past 20 years
1
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+15
I'm going to hijack this question for a related question:
Is it true that cheques are still in use in the US or is that just a Hollywood thing?
15
TabascohFiascohApr 1, 2026
+12
I use a few checks a year.
12
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+7
Really, may I ask why?
Like what would the benefit be as opposed to a regular transaction?
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RichyJ_T1ARApr 1, 2026
+15
Occasionally, a paper check is literally the cheapest option if you're not wanting to deal with cash. I'm not paying no damned 5% convenience fee to pay my DMV registration or to pay a speeding ticket using my debit card.
15
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+6
The fact that it is an option to pay for any of that in cash is an absolute culture shock to me
6
RichyJ_T1ARApr 1, 2026
+4
It wasn't long ago - and I mean like less than ten years ago - that a town near me straight up didn't accept any form of electronic payment for paying fines. Check, cash or money orders only. That's when I got a checkbook for myself, it cost maybe ten bucks and it definitely saved me more in fees then it cost to get a booklet.
4
TabascohFiascohApr 1, 2026
+3
Gotta send the tax men some money sometimes.
I use them to send large amounts of money from my accounts at institution A to Institution B
Big ticket item purchases between private parties.
3
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+6
But, isn't digital banking a thing then?
6
TabascohFiascohApr 1, 2026
+2
It would be easier if you only bank with large established institutions.
I like credit unions for my spending money though.
They are not quite as technologically established but convenient enough to use day to day.
2
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+7
I'm sorry, but this all still seems alien to me 😂
7
TabascohFiascohApr 1, 2026
+2
Just wait until I tell you about how the several different insurances work.
Or filing taxes.
Or any number of dumb ways companies make money off us in infuriating ways.
2
ObligatoryAnxietyApr 1, 2026
+2
Convenience fee for paying my bill via credit card online.... Okay, here's a check. Never leave money on the table.
2
fusiformgyrusApr 1, 2026
+1
I don’t know what you mean by a regular transaction. Checks are regular.
When you deal with a plumber or an electrician, most of the time they don’t give you an option to pay with a credit card and nobody has like $500 just lying around.
1
GitPushItRealGoodApr 1, 2026
+1
This used to be a regular transaction! Checks are hundreds of years old.
1
SirGlassApr 1, 2026
+1
Note OP however I live in a condo with a condo association . Its really just the people who live in the condo and its a smaller condo of 8 people . I pay a small monthly fee for things like garbage pickup , sewer , some maintenance for common areas
The condo LLC has a bank account at some local credit union and we really have no way to take an ACH (online or electronic transfer) because USA banking is stuck in the1970s
However I actually do not write a check, I just have my bank write and mail the check to , well to my own condo for the fee to pay the condo association .
1
HrekiresApr 1, 2026
+3
I write one check/year, to pay my taxes.
Don't like having it automatically deducted from my account because I want to make sure I have enough money in my checking account first.
3
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+3
But why do you have to physically write a cheque for that?
Can't you just check your account and then digitally transfer the money?
3
TabascohFiascohApr 1, 2026
+6
You need an account to send it to.
When you fill a check you literally put "US TREASURY"
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thepinkinmycheeksApr 1, 2026
+1
But transfer it to where? Is the account information for paying your taxes readily accessible to you?
1
nivlarkApr 1, 2026
+1
In the UK if you have to do a tax return (which most people do not, because taxes are automatically deducted by your employer) yes, you simply electronically transfer what you owe to HMRC's bank account. As for recurring payments like council tax (paid to local government), you can pay them by direct debit like other bills.
1
thepinkinmycheeksApr 1, 2026
+1
Our taxes are automatically deducted as well but we still have to file a tax return.
How do they make the info about HMRC's bank account accessible?
1
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
Most of it is dealt with automatically, but yes I believe if you are due money you can just transfer it. You'll probably receive a letter with the details, and I assume there's going to be a QR code
0
HrekiresApr 1, 2026
The problem for me specifically is that I don't do my own taxes.
If I tell my tax guy to select an electronic payment, I'll end up with an unknown amount being deducted at an indeterminate time.
Much easier for me to pickup my completed forms from my tax dude, see how much I owe, transfer that money into my checking account, and then drop a check in the mail knowing that it will likely be deducted within the next week.
0
SetObvious7411Apr 1, 2026
+3
I genuinely wonder what the hard way would look like if that's considered easy
3
HrekiresApr 1, 2026
+1
The hard way would be me guessing "oh, I'll probably owe about $600, let me leave an extra $1k sitting in my checking account just in case" and then hoping that I wasn't disastrously wrong with my ballpark and ending up getting my account overdrafted.
1
fusiformgyrusApr 1, 2026
+1
The hard way would also be that you keep the record of all your written checks and have to compare them to how much money you had in your account to know your current balance. That’s what people used to do.
1
jayjaya29Apr 1, 2026
+2
They are still used.
2
IBJONApr 1, 2026
+2
They're used, but they're not that common.
2
YouveHadItAditApr 1, 2026
+1
Poor mans way of getting a receipt.
We've had problems with landlords, utilities, HOA's, etc. over the last 40 years. The backs of those cancelled checks have saved us so much heartache.
If it hadn't been for the cancelled check, my wife and I would have had our rent money......just disappear. Twice. Both times the landlords were SURE we hadn't paid.
We had a gas company take us all the way to court over an unpaid balance. Nothing like showing up with the original bank cancelled check showing that we had in fact paid the final bill. And then getting compensation for their incompetence.
1
SirGlassApr 1, 2026
+1
Yes. Now people writing checks is sort of rare. However many small businesses or independent contractors still take checks
So like if you hire someone to do some home improvement they may only take check or maybe cash . Why, well because credit cards take some 3% fee , and well when margins are tight why give up 3% just to get paid?
However in business , like business to business especially in small to medium sized business checks are still pretty common for some unkown reason.
Also in many rural areas , people still use checks. I have never gotten a physical pay check, always got a direct deposit what is just an electronic payment to my bank account
My Girlfriends mom , still gets a physical paycheck ?
1
Possible-Importance6Apr 1, 2026
+1
Our customers are about 50/50 between checks and credit cards. Well, 49/49 with the remaining 2 being cash or ACH.
I prefer the checks. I have a check scanner and can deposit directly into the bank from my desk. The credit card companies take a percentage of every transaction. That's why some businesses add a credit card surcharge on prices.
1
deviantelfApr 1, 2026
+1
Some people do but not most. Usually because old and habit, or they don't understand how things work, or what their options are. Or their bank just sucks.
I've been paying even individuals through my bank for decades. Free transfers between other banks. It's all doable online, with a phone even.
Last check i wrote was 2010 for my dress for my wedding ($50 vintage, tag still on!) at some hole in the wall place. I just happened to have an old check folded in a wallet pocket, otherwise I'd have just went and got the cash. Poor check was creased and looked like it was gonna fall apart but they took it, they didn't take cards.
1
SaturnalliiaApr 1, 2026
+10
Nearly the entire banking system's technological architecture is still in the same language it was initially written in 65 years ago.
If you ever wonder why so many elements of it feel archaic this is one reason why.
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Dnlx5Apr 1, 2026
+12
Why are contracts still basic documents??
Give me a section by section breakdown with legal language, explanation, and case law where appropriate. Put it in a better UI while your at it. Dialog boxes, or a diagram format, maybe a flow chart...
In a world of AI we are basically still creating agreements the same way we did in 1776.
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inactiveuser247Apr 1, 2026
+1
Because they need to be static documents where the language is explicitly chosen and agreed by the parties and potentially reviewed and approved by legal professionals. Adding things like case law is only going to complicate things and isn’t actually part of the contract. Often contract disputes will hinge on a single sentence or word so you have to be absolutely precise in what you say and what you agree to.
Adding any sort of explanatory language to it has the potential to change the meaning of the contract or potentially invalidate it.
The contract’s job is to describe what you are agreeing to, not to teach you Contracts 101. If you don’t understand a contract, you’re responsible for getting someone to explain it to you before you sign. Its real value is providing a clear baseline so that any future legal disputes can be resolved quickly, not to make it easy for you to understand.
Similarly, adding helper-content like flow charts will frequently create ambiguity. If there are details pre-conditions of what has to happen before the next step in a process, a flow chart will necessarily simplify that and create ambiguity as to what is actually required.
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Taupe88Apr 1, 2026
+6
faxing? seriously what are we in some time warp 1977?
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VisitingUranusApr 1, 2026
+2
Internet security is an oxymoron, so I could see why some security sensitive stuff is sent by fax.
2
smaug_pecApr 1, 2026
+1
Shh. No one tell them that the telephone network is digital, and it runs over the internet too.
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cre8ivjayApr 1, 2026
+6
Asa a Canadian, when I go to the US, two things stand out ...
Why is my credit card getting taken away at restaurants like it's 1992?
Also, why am I asked to enter a zip code when I try to get gas? I don't have a zip code (I know there's a weird workaround but still....it's weird).
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charliesk9unitApr 1, 2026
+1
LOL. I think the zip code thing is a static two factor authentication. What is ludicrous is I got asked for it once even though I tapped for it using my watch.
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DiamondCalvesFanApr 1, 2026
+15
The main culprit is legacy core banking systems - many banks still run on decades-old mainframes from the 1960s or 1970s, with massive technical debt eating up \~70% of IT budgets just for maintenance.
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snakebitin22Apr 1, 2026
+16
No, they do not run on decades old mainframe systems. They run on decades old mainframe software.
Big difference.
There aren’t ancient mainframes taking up entire rooms running banks. That’s ridiculous.
It’s software that is maintained and updated regularly, just like software we use today. Why would you get rid of something that has a reliable track record?
There’s way more problems with newer software than the shit that’s been running for decades.
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PAXICHENApr 1, 2026
+10
Thank you. I work for a company that has a very large portion of its workload on mainframes. The shit just works. Sure the applications use TN3270 emulation and it looks like you’re making a reservation in Saber, but it works.
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snakebitin22Apr 1, 2026
+4
Exactly. If people understood how many of the fancy web UIs were making API calls to mainframe architecture, their heads would explode.
Software that has lasted for decades isn’t still here because us IT folks are too stupid to figure out how to replace it with something better.
It’s here because it would be stupid to replace it with anything else.
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smaug_pecApr 1, 2026
+1
No it is not. If you want to run a real time payment network, while maintaining a core banking solution, you absolutely can.
The key problem in the American market is that there is no first mover advantage - you’d just be in a payment network with one member until someone else joins, and even then you aren’t materially significant. The disincentive if you are significant is that you’re giving your competitors a market advantage equally (everyone gets faster payments).
The way other markets solve this is by a regulator requiring the network to be developed by the participants. Americans are, unfortunately, somewhat allergic to that approach, so they stay with worse solution (and tend to blame conspiracies to boot).
Source: I run finance/banking systems.
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NappyDougOutApr 1, 2026
+3
The way they only show one year back of transactions.
The way they don't highlight potentially fraudulent transactions in my account overview (eg back to back transactions in 2 different states).
The way they abbreviate names on transaction companies - they know damn well everywhere I spent money.
The way money transfers take forever, but spending is instant.
The way they don't allow advanced views of historical transactions.. e.g. I'd love to see how much I've spent at "Dunkin Donuts" since the beginning of time, so I can use that data to curse them out when they get my order wrong.
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Exciting_Telephone65Apr 1, 2026
+7
I'm still wildly fascinated that America in the year 2026 still apparently uses _checks_ as a legitimate mean of payment. I have never seen one in my whole life, they were outdated way before I was born in the early 90s.
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VisitingUranusApr 1, 2026
+1
🙄
Internet security is an oxymoron, so I only use credit cards online cause I know I don't owe anything when they are stolen. I don't know if that is always the case if I submitted a bank acc number online. So the credit card bill gets paid by check.
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SpakoomyApr 1, 2026
+6
Yeah the eye roll and the response isnt doing anything to argue how outdated you guys are.
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AidenTaiApr 1, 2026
+1
That's... Not the right approach. There are several underlying issues with what you've said, and outdated technology \*is\* at the heart of a lot of it (public policy is as well).
First, in many countries you can easily pay by bank account, and merely knowingt a bank account number isn't enough to use it (you can publicly share bank account numbers if you wanted). It's like an email, you still need to get in and access it to make an outbound payment. Checks are possible in part because the US allows you to pull money from a bank account merely by knowing the number (the number is what's written on the bottom of a cheque that enables the whole system to work). The US still has a concept of 'secret numbers', like bank accounts, social security, etc. The equivalents in many countries are generally useless on their own, so they don't need to be kept as private. (If you wanted to open a bank account, knowing your social security number isn't enough, you still need to show ID, etc.)
Generally, for government entities there are payment portals that allow 'vouchers' to be made for services. As in, if you need to pay a fee for procedure X, well you demonstrate you've paid X with a voucher or receipt for it. And you can acquire it by paying online by card, by paying in person with cash at many different entities, or by using a bank agreement to pay with your personal account, etc.
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mldyfoxApr 1, 2026
+3
Not necessarily banking specific, but I find it incredibly annoying to have to pay a convenience fee for electronic payments. It's more convenient for the entity receiving the payment than a check, for the love of Christmas cookies!
I've read about folks having only the online option to pay rent, and having to pay an additional 30 bucks for the privilege. At least the bill I'm thinking about is only 5 bucks, and they have multiple payment options.
3
hastings1033Apr 1, 2026
+1
The absolute bullshit of making a deposit that isn't credited for days, yet a withdrawal is usually immediate.
1
BunnyHugssyApr 1, 2026
+2
Customer service is slow, fees are confusing and setting up accounts or loans is a hassle
2
dodadolerApr 1, 2026
+2
Fees
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Bubbly-Bass-7570Apr 1, 2026
+2
Why, in the age of digital algorithms and automated servers, do banks have "days off"? If I make a transfer on Friday night, the money "hangs" until Monday. Computers don't rest on Saturday, they don't celebrate Easter. This is an artificial slowdown of the economy, which is simply beneficial for banks to keep your money longer.
2
DinghyMan93Apr 1, 2026
+2
The fact that most/all banks close up shop at 5:00 pm.
2
MoonZhangxApr 1, 2026
+2
having to physically go to the bank for things like notarizing forms or signature verifications. i mean, we’re living in 2026, shouldn’t my phone handle that?
2
cajunjoelApr 1, 2026
+1
A notary fills a very specific to need to prevent fraud.
1
-_Phantom-_Apr 1, 2026
+2
Why do cheques even still exist??
2
godlessrageApr 1, 2026
+1
The intentional delay in credit card payment processing in order to increase interest.
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IBJONApr 1, 2026
+1
As long as you pay before the closing date for that month, it shouldn't matter. I've never had a CC charge interest to a balance that was paid, even if it wasn't deducted from the total balance yet.
In fact, I don't think I've ever had a CC that had a closing date that wasn't at least 2 days after the due date
1
godlessrageApr 1, 2026
+1
Depending on the bank they go daily for interest
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iammxyzptlkApr 1, 2026
+1
the fact that if an unknown charge happens after hours my bank is closed and I have to wait until the next day for more information.
I used do to tech support and we shifted people to cover West Coast customers (we were east coast based). You would think the bank would do something similar.
1
llagnIApr 1, 2026
+1
I can't think of any. With automatic payments for rent, utilities, subscriptions etc, and tap payments and immediate transfers for anything else, I hardly ever think of banking at all.
1
Coffee__AddictApr 1, 2026
+1
Not using continuous interest for everything so rates are most easily compared.
1
bizwigApr 1, 2026
+1
Person to Person money transfers.
1
xXGray_WolfXxApr 1, 2026
+1
Sms being the only two-factor authentication method.
1
Cheetodude625Apr 1, 2026
+1
Credit card payments online/mobile will take a solid day or two to fully be processed despite having the tech to speed it up instantaneously.
1
jinniuApr 1, 2026
+1
lack of transparancy in trading.
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GoopInThisBowlIsVileApr 1, 2026
+1
Physical checks, I only have to actually write one or two per year. It’s also typically government (taxes) related. Sure I can pay my property tax online, but there’s a processing fee for card payments. Paying a tax to pay other taxes is stupid.
I’m also increasingly disinterested in having to deal with physical money of any kind (bills and coins). People like toss out the reason for keeping it because of electronic systems/banking could happen. They want to keep it as a backup. If something that catastrophic happens having bills or coins is irrelevant. Physical money isn’t going to be worth anything then either.
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RyokurinApr 1, 2026
+1
ACH transfers. A push transaction (sending funds to another account) can take several days because they are only done in batches. If you remember to do it first thing on batch day it will go that day, but after 2pm, expect it to happen in 3-5 days. Maybe longer if there's a holiday during that wait.
A pull transaction (requesting funds from another account) can take 5-6 days because they basically are sending instructions for the other bank to verify the funds are there, and then to send it.
1
edabiedabaApr 1, 2026
+1
Their stupid and nonsensical statement document format.
1
colin_staplesApr 1, 2026
+1
I legit thought this said “baking” and I was about to comment about the stupid use of “cups” to measure flour etc.
Then I saw the top comments and realised that I had misread the title.
My comment still stands though. When baking, dry ingredients should be measured in grams, liquids should be measured in millilitres. In the 21st century, “cups” is frustratingly outdated and hugely inaccurate. There will be no debate on this.
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MyxineApr 1, 2026
+1
That the owners and operators of big banks are still allowed to have air.
1
Upset-Somewhere3089Apr 1, 2026
+1
ACH takes days to clear. Like WTF?!
Countries have moved to immediate settlement even for ACH transactions. What is stopping the US?
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