What is the worst case of "writer's barely disguised f*****" in TV history?

You're shitting me

Dude also had a stand-up bit about Spanish Fly. He was basically telling the world what he was doing

He also has a comedy routine he’s put in books and done on stage and interviews when he talks about how great Spanish Fly is and how he tried to get it as a kid to use on girls. For those u aware, Spanish Fly is an old fashioned name for a date r*** drug.

The Idol, which would be my nomination. The only thing that could beat Sam Levinson’s other very expensive sexual fantasy, aka Euphoria.

it’s so funny that there’s that The Weeknd, then there’s the Weeknd on American Dad, a secretly great dude with magical virgin powers lol

I have spent way too much time thinking about The Idol. Based on everything we know about Sam Levinson at this point, yeah, his stuff bled into it. However my hot take is the Weeknd was more concerned with "See! That female pop star who acts like a victim is the real villain!" more than anything around the sex scenes. The finale that was shot at one of his concerts was the tacked on coda that tried to undermine the rest of the show.

My go-to for Tarantino's foot thing is when he wrote Salma Hayek pouring a drink down her leg and a guy drinking from her toes **and then cast himself** as that guy. It's not even a self-insert, it's *literally him doing it* on screen.

When Uma Thurman's daughter got cast in once upon a time in Hollywood she went to her mom for advice on working with Tarantino and Uma just said "keep your shoes on."

Once upon a time in Hollywood was basically 1 hour of feet. It got the point where I couldn't take the movie seriously at all.

That guy invented the polygraph too, didn't he?

He was in a thrupple too.

My stepdad used to refer to charmed as “the braless wonders.” That..says it all I think.

My mom love stories featuring magic and women so she adored Charmed …. though even she called it the “T and A show”

Making Gibby constantly take his shirt off is really weird

I came to respect Jerry Trainor after learning he used to do a lot of unpaid overtime just so the kids wouldn't be alone with Dan Schneider.

I've only watched bits and pieces of iCarly. What happened in it? 

I went looking for a compilation video, but there are literally so many examples of his foot obsession that a compilation would turn into a feature-length film. The most egregious example I know involves Amanda Bynes: https://www.tiktok.com/@jamesrader_/video/7348232569881890094 🤢🤢🤢

You just cannot go wrong with Scorpy. The most unhinged villain outfit ever.

I'd argue that Farscape wasn't attempting to disguise their fetishes at all. It's a pretty deliberately horny show.

Somebody on the sublistnook described Farscape as a confused American’s outer space adventure through Australia’s B*** culture.

Ooooh! You watched Farscape, not a lot of people i know have even heard of it. How about Lexx? Makes Farscape look like a kids show! Lol

Don't forget all the naked aliens and sex references. I'd say aliens count as a f*****. Chiana sure did.

Wrestling was wild back in the day, so many weird storylines that made zero sense until you realize what was going on behind scenes

The Ruthless Aggression era, especially with anything involving the Divas (& the Katie Vick storyline), was probably one of those times where you didn't want to openly say you're a wrestling fan. Hell, even with how it's remembered with nostalgia, the Attitude Era has some unwatchable moments involving women, like with Beaver Cleavage, Val Venis, Mae Young, and Sable. The first Diss The Diva segment, Vince forcing Trish Stratus to bark like a dog, & Kurt Angle stalking Booker T's wife and talking about wanting to have "bestiality sex" with her are just nasty to watch.

FOR REFERENCE, to the uninitiated: * Vince, like his friends Hulk Hogan and Donald Trump, is rumored to have a thing for his own daughter, and infamously wrestled her in a match at a WWE event in 2003 just days before her wedding * Vince has told stories about 'experimenting' with a cousin in old-ass interviews, and for years he wanted to put an incest storyline on WWE TV. When his previously-mentioned daughter was pregnant (in real life), he wanted to turn it into a storyline on TV where he was the father; and when she shot that down *immediately* he said 'okay, then let's have it be your brother's instead.' A few years later, he did put an incest act on the show, though thankfully it never got any further than the two (not-related IRL) wrestlers being weirdly close onscreen for onscreen siblings. * Vince has a thing for bathroom humor, particularly farts and poop. Over the years there have been storylines where a wrestler was dosed with a spiked burrito, leading to a beatdown from his rival in the bathroom as he was shitting; a female wrestler (a damn solid one for her time) was given a gimmick where she couldn't stop farting; a few people have gotten fake poop splattered all over them like Nickelodeon slime (including Vince himself back in 2006). This is unfortunately something there's proof that he likes in reality, as the lawsuit from Janel Grant that got him ousted from WWE details an incident where Vince shat on her and forced her to continue having sex with a third person while he cleaned himself off. The list goes on, and I'm lowkey ashamed I've committed this much bullshit about his bad TV shows to memory, tbh.

Fans think that wrestling is bad now. it was 10 times worse when Vince was in charge. Sure he had moments of brilliance, but it was mostly bad. This man allowed the Katie Vick storyline to happen. If you don't know, good. Don't look it up. But from a majority of accounts, Vince is just as bad as you have heard, if not worse.

This is the answer. Nothing else comes close. The entire art of pro wrestling has been permanently warped around that old man's druthers. Even when you watch completely different styles of wrestling, it is invariably in conversation with the McMahon family circus.

Oh they’re not just magical pain batons, they’re magical pain dildos. As others have mentioned the books are *incredibly* horny. The main character is so masculine and sexual that he’s able to break out of the sex-torture conditioning one of the Mord Sith is doing to him, and he then proceeds to show her the way of truth through passionate lovemaking of his own design. That plot takes up a significant chunk of the middle of the first book. Cool BBE and macguffin though.

That’s 100% the book’s author, there’s even more thinly veiled b*** torture in the books that could never get on a cw level show.

I mean.... you're not wrong, the books were as well. As far as I remember the tv series was actually pretty in line with the books. Campy and very 'B-movie' vibes, but relatively accurate to the original book series.

Second only to the author's f***** for Ayn Rand.

You got that in the wrong order. The entirety of the Avatar franchise is just James Cameron’s blue Tobias f*****.

My god the f****** RAPES on this show - my wife watches it and every season I ask her which character is getting raped this time around. How about in the first season where the main guy is getting raped for hours and he’s delusional and he f****** *comes* and then has to be ashamed of that. Like who f****** writes that???

And then Galbaldan has the gall to say that knowing people write e***** fanfics with her characters is like watching them be assaulted. I desperately want to read the notes of any mental health professional she talks to.

It’s absolutely a f***** for her, which makes it even funnier when she goes on and on about how her books aren’t romance, and that she hates fanfic. Like, girl. Regardless of how historically accurate your writing is, it’s still a bodice-ripper, and you are so very clearly extremely into abuse, which is a common f***** with female romance novelists. (Which if I think too long about, it makes me sad.)

Annie is pretty young we try not to sexualize her.

One of my hardest Rick and Morty laughs was the episode with the four Mortys going on an Stand by Me type of adventure to a wishing portal and one of them wishes for incest p*** to become more mainstream. It came out of nowhere and I was dying for a solid 10 minutes. 

Although it was another writer that took credit it for it, the episode about Garret marrying his cousin definitely had a message.

I think he just understands that it's a funny dynamic and plays into it tbh

This was the first thing I thought of. I've been binging Taskmaster for the last month or so and I'm convinced he has some sort of humiliation thing going on.

That was just the look for the time tbh. Criminal Minds, they all got the same hair

Sounds like Fox News.

Weren't two of them supposed to be sisters though, so that would make sense? And aside from them, the only other blonde was Kim? 

As a teen when it aired i was happy to see teenaged themed jokes from them

>amputating woman’s legs. I’ve only seen bits and pieces \*spittake\*

which would be totally on par with the source material (comics)

I had never seen this cartoon, but it took literally seconds to find an [example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTr3gClwArQ) that is directly on point. Was this actually shown to children?

I had to scroll WAY too far to find a Ryan Murphy shoutout - kinda shows how young a lot of Listnook users are that their go-tos are Euphoria and that Nickelodeon guy but Ryan Murphy is STILL making shows that feature all of his go-tos - he’s literally got a new show on that just debuted that’s basically if Nip/Tuck got their hands on The Substance

Ryan Murphy is a gay man but people are getting hella pregnant in his shows at a frequency that has made me raise an eyebrow

Watching the first scene of Menendez Brothers, I immediately rolled my eyes and thought “I just know Ryan Murphy masturbates to this”

Funny enough, even when he does something non-murdery, like eat pray love - turns out theyre actually murdery

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What's weird is as I'm reading the books, I'm running across multiple times where they *added* more into the show.

Hard agree. I wanted to like it because the concept is cool, but literally EVERY character is getting raped in that show. Just started to feel like I was a non-consenting audience to someone’s r*** f*****.

Omg my boss recommended this show. I don’t recall what it was, but I had just finished binge watching a different show with a romance plot line and shared with my boss how I enjoyed the show. He was like, “oh, romance? My wife and I LOVE Outlander!” I watched the first few episodes and was like, “y’all wild for this”

That was so common in romance novels of the 80s/90s, I don’t think Diana Gabaldon is unique It plays a strange role in the romance genre. Women who feel bad about liking sex often have r*** fantasies bc the choice to have sex was taken away from them so they do not have to feel bad for liking it. This has gone down in romance books as women don’t have the shame of a previous generation but a lot have moved on over to the “dark romance” genre As to why so many men get raped in outlander, maybe it’s an equal opportunity thing

You just described basically every CW show for the last fifteen years

He sucks, but honestly his female characters on Firefly and Buffy were still somehow better than the majority of what we got on TV during the 2000s

Isn’t he just writing about boomer fetishes?

Ryan Murphy also

And Martin Mystery for a gender-swapped version of many of the same tropes.

I get why people think this is the case but im kinda eeeeeeh on this one. Im not saying it wasnt ever there, I think it was occasionally, but I've seen that list of every episode having a f***** of something and to me that reads as a very p***-brained take. Like, someone went through the show and specifically nitpicked for any and every type of f***** they could think of, sort of like a CinemaSins reading, but horny. Other spy movies have James Bond and counterparts in a lot of similar situations, getting tied up or dangled over things and the like, and Totally Spies had some whacky tech and even magic to spice up premises and it never really came across as suspicious, for the most part. Very rarely. Even the catsuits are spy movie staples and you can see influences like the anime Black Cat and Charlies Angels all over it, so it inherits elements. You can make a f***** out of literally anything, and thats what that list where this take came from reads as to me. There is someone out there into literally everything, it doesn't automatically make it weird by its own merits.

Didn’t the men have to do it too? I distinctly remember T’Pol and Tucker have a scene where they have to rub each other down and the sexual tension is so thick you need a machete to cut through it

Roddenberry had some of the men in miniskirts too, it was one of the uniform variants for several male background characters in early seasons of TNG.

The miniskirt in the 60’s was the opposite, as it was a symbol of women’s liberation. Braga is a perv though for sure, beyond the general aspect of “put attractive actresses in hot costumes.”

Miniskirts were common and not seen as objectifying. Berman and the catsuits tho does fit this.

How do you miss one out of only 13 words in the prompt?

Lilly Tomlinson movie The Incredible Shrinking Woman is so much better.