My husband got laid off after working there 9 years. No warning and even his boss was completely blindsided. He was supposed to start a huge project today. He heard some people that were the ONLY person thst knows how to run certain systems were let go. So if something breaks no one will know how to fix it. F*** them.
1964
groggyhouseApr 1, 2026
+591
This! I've worked in enough big multinational companies to know that there will always be systems or processes that are not properly documented and that only 1 or 2 people know how it works.
591
gaya2081Apr 1, 2026
+199
Yep, your husband is correct. There are some projects that are going to not be able to be staffed because they let go the only people who could staff them today... It's going to be interesting to see what happens going forward with them. It isn't just a matter of just training someone that is still there up either. Citizenship and clearance requirements are also going to be an issue. Oh well not our problem anymore I guess?
199
Celitha11Apr 1, 2026
+32
Not at all. Good luck on the job hunt, friend!
32
iwastryingtokillgodApr 1, 2026
+98
Yes, and while people can pretend it matters, it doesnt.
Large companies dont give any fucks about continuity or institutional knowledge.
It'll be a pain for a few months or whatever but the world and the business moves onward regardless.
I have worked for almost all top IT companies at some point and its always the same.
I have been cut and I have been kept. In the end you just work around the problems and figure it out like you would anything else that breaks.
So and so built that and manages it we dont rly know how it works.
Ok, well figure it out or build something else to replace whatever it was doing.
Few weeks or couple months later its over and done with.
No one is irreplaceable. Its that simple.
98
yahyahbananaApr 1, 2026
+14
agree. Because of how cut-throat and KPI driven the culture is, employees dgaf about institutional knowledge.
14
Cabinet_FabulousMar 31, 2026
+8047
My Dad lost his job with them today, courtesy of AI email, months before his stocks would be vested with his pending retirement. Oracle absorbs back the stock options when someone is laid off, so F*** ORACLE.
8047
no_id_neverMar 31, 2026
+1545
That sucks even more, I am so sorry for your Dad.
1545
scooterbaby46Apr 1, 2026
+1265
Like a few other said. Talk with a lawyer before signing anything especially if he was in the verge of vesting anything. My mom had a similar thing years ago with AT&T and once she discussed lawyers they back peddled quick and came to some favorable agreement.
1265
Repulsive-PhilosophyApr 1, 2026
+252
Oracle and lawyers... Wishing his dad luck
252
discographyAApr 1, 2026
+195
Oracle lawyers are now AI lawyers so he may have a chance!
195
Salt-Set6232Apr 1, 2026
+36
You gotta hope so lol. AI is terrible at Law in general because it is written so poorly.
36
AutVincere72Apr 1, 2026
+157
Talk to an employment lawyer. Every time this has happened to me I have had my vesting accelerated. Its happened many times.
157
Difficult-Square-689Apr 1, 2026
+16
With so many fired/left to fire I imagine Oracle would be willing to fight any legal challenges to prevent an avalanche of complaints.
16
AutVincere72Apr 1, 2026
+33
A lawyer calling up and saying hey I think you forgot to do this standard thing can be effective. Usually a labor attorney costs like $250 to talk to. If the options are wprth $50k thats a no brainer.
Also companies make money from exercised options. Most people do not realize that. I have seen people fired exercising options helping the bottom line in material ways.
33
shotsalloverMar 31, 2026
+1090
Seems like that would be a good negotiation point for severance.
1090
pooBalls333Apr 1, 2026
+1061
Negotiation with whom? An email? It's at-will employment, at least in the US, there will be no negotiation.
And to be absolutely clear... F*** ORACLE and every huge company that did this in the past couple of years. I was also on the receiving end of this.
1061
Business-Row-478Apr 1, 2026
+743
At will doesn’t mean you can’t sue for wrongful termination. Terminating an employee to prevent them from vesting is usually illegal.
743
Affectionate-Alps527Apr 1, 2026
+502
With 30,000 fired, you'd never be able to make a case that you were terminated to prevent your stock from vesting.
Just another reason states should join Canada. We have laws to protect workers and ensure more fair treatment when employment is terminated.
502
murasakikuma42Apr 1, 2026
+144
>Just another reason states should join Canada.
I don't think Canada wants any of the US states. And I don't blame them.
144
Business-Row-478Apr 1, 2026
+182
You definitely can. Say a disproportionate amount of layoffs were employees that were before vesting period.
182
trixiepoodleApr 1, 2026
+141
Why do US citizens put up with these laws? AT Will employment sounds horrendous idea for employees
141
Emergency_Term157Apr 1, 2026
+195
Because of propaganda a majority of workers believe “socialism” bad! While at the same time businesses get handouts all day from the government.
195
marbanasinApr 1, 2026
+61
Union busting techniques and decades (a century) of anti-union propaganda have also reduced any form of solidarity to advocate for improvement. Our government is less a democracy than a true corporatocracy with wealth dug into all levels of government.
61
Greenkeeper132Apr 1, 2026
+66
Because the US have no organised labour to speak of. US labour unions were crushed in the 1970s and 1980s and haven't recovered since. Without labour unions to put pressure on companies and the government, workers will always get the short end of the stick. In this case, the short end of the stick is getting laid off with almost zero warning or severance.
66
scroopydogApr 1, 2026
+69
Well ya see Timmy, half these folks vote against their best interests.
I have literal union member friends that vote Trump. Like dude, issues of the day are ultimately less important than, checks notes, your livelihood.
69
sin-eater82Apr 1, 2026
+34
Remember, the American Dream is to be the owner. Laws favor that dream to an extreme. And unfortunately, greed seems to win more often than not with there's large corporations.
There are large regions of the U.S. where people grow up equating workers rights to communism and are anti workers unions. It's legitimately cultural for a large number of Americans.
34
dawtipsApr 1, 2026
+44
What leverage and power does the employee have in this situation? None.
44
FerrousEULAApr 1, 2026
+19
I think you'd be surprised by what labor attorneys can pull off when companies pull this kind of shit.
The real reason behind half the shit you see HR do is to prevent labor attorneys from feasting on them.
19
munzterMar 31, 2026
+72
Did he have to take options or could he have had RSUs? Typically there is a vest schedule and with RSUs you get less stock overall, but own them out right once they vest, while options you get more but don't own them until you exercise them. That is a risk you incur with options. My company gives you 90 days to exercise your options after leaving the company, regardless of the reason, and if you cant pay to exercise them then you lose them. That's why I've always gone the RSU route.
72
GetAFknJobApr 1, 2026
+43
There is no such thing as ‘can’t pay to exercise them’ with a publicly traded company. They exercise and sell in milliseconds if they are positive. Ex: if you have 1000 options at $20 strike price and stock price is now $25, then you don’t need to come up with $20K. You do an exercise and sell and they charge you $20-30 for the millisecond loan. You net just under $5K.
In a private company, yes, you have to come up with the cash to convert the options to stock because there is no market to sell them. That’s the risk of leaving a pre-IPO company.
43
onecurlywitchMar 31, 2026
+4565
My last job relied on Oracle and it's so bad they're looking at switching to Workday. Do you know how bad your product has to be to for people to go out of their way to move to *Workday?* Imagine if they spent more effort developing their product than convincing investors about a small margin.
Pay people. Invest. In. People. F*** C-suite stupidity.
4565
pnutbrutalApr 1, 2026
+651
The oracle software my company uses looks like it’s from the year 2000. Shit product. Have fun with your shit quality AI
651
methpartysuppliesApr 1, 2026
+212
We use their HR program and oh god is it bad. It’s like 15 year ago interface design and soooo slow. And all I hear about the migration was that it was a nightmare and horribly expensive. I’m waiting for the upside of how this thing is better **at all** than the program we had before.
212
wheresthatbeefApr 1, 2026
+88
lol it is trash. I’m a Business analyst working with HCM cloud at my company. They are forcing everyone to their new “redwood” pages that are half cooked, not nearly as easy to customize, and not all the pages are released. So you have end users jumping between pages with completely different looks and feels, but if you don’t switch on their timelines if you run into bugs or issues with the current pages (which you will because it’s also buggy as f***), then they tell you to get fucked when you open a service request.
Probably in preparation for this round of layoffs they recently switched from assigning service requests to a person to leaving it in a team (all the updates are signed “Oracle support team”), so there is no continuity and you spend days answering the same questions and providing the same data over and over.
88
Far_Tap_488Apr 1, 2026
+29
Its every business software I swear. I work with epicor and its the same bullshit. They're redesigning all the screens to a new look that is a significant downgrade, requires more clicks for simple things, and doesn't even f****** load all the data correctly. They just pushed it out another 2 months cause its such a piece of shit.
But the users are qa, that they just ignore. And supports f*** all. They'll straight up tell you wrong things because they have no clue what theyre doing. Just a shitshow.
29
StrawBerryWasHereApr 1, 2026
+484
Their EMR system sucks too. Tons of healthcare organizations are jumping ship to Epic
484
stealingjoyApr 1, 2026
+115
It was bad before Oracle but accelerated massively after acquisition. So many teams are gutted and moved around... Just a huge erasure of institutional knowledge.
115
SeitanOfTheGodsApr 1, 2026
+110
Cerner was a mess before Oracle bought them. Oracle will make it worse.
The controversy section is lengthy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Health?wprov=sfla1
110
dalton10eApr 1, 2026
+86
Lol. My doctor was showing me the cerner software onetime while wrapping up an appointment. Apparently a cerner rep had come by and told him to never click on a certain tab in the upper right corner, it would crash things if he did.
He was hovering his mouse over that tab saying "one click and i can call it a day". Lol. Amazing that such a POS product was worth billions.
86
DrBlackBeard_13Apr 1, 2026
+74
Ehh, this one tho, not their fault. Well, partially their fault. I worked at Cerner pre-Oracle acquisition. It was so shitty and we were already bleeding clients. Oracle only brought it for the fed gov contracts.
74
botulinumtxnApr 1, 2026
+13
Cerner has sucked for a very long time. Not sure when it was acquired though
13
SanibelManApr 1, 2026
+34
They swept up Cerner here in Kansas City a few years ago and probably left a thousand people in the metro unemployed this morning, after already cutting jobs here significantly.
34
kakarot-3Apr 1, 2026
+57
My job uses Workday lol
57
Worldly-Hotel-7921Apr 1, 2026
+32
My job just switched to Workday!
32
blastradiiApr 1, 2026
+10
How is it? What’s a better alternative?
10
kakarot-3Apr 1, 2026
+22
I’ve never used oracle to my knowledge. If I did, it was probably forever ago when I was a teen. Workday is fine. It does what it’s supposed to do. It’s a little slow to load things and sometimes the notifications are annoying to mark as read.
It could be better and more user friendly but it’s fine. We just use it to see our checks and put in PTO/sick time. I’m sure other organizations use more features and could provide better information
22
purpleburgundyApr 1, 2026
+13
I've used both Oracle and Workday as a regular employee.
Oracle was confusing and the UI felt anti-intuitive and frustrating to find anything when you needed specific information. Some of the modules have entirely different styles and are broken displaying the same information another one can.
Workday feels modern and normal and I have no real opinions about it - which I generally feel like is exactly what you want.
13
Cream314FanApr 1, 2026
+76
Im going to sound like a shill, but workday really isnt that all that bad. It’s the companies that don’t know how to use the software that’s the problem.
76
willberich92Apr 1, 2026
+29
My first job used oracle, it only worked on internet explorer and i was on a Mac so it required me to use safari to emulate internet explorer just to view my paycheck and submit my time. My current company uses workday and it does all i need it to by letting me go to a non 90s era page and look at my paycheck on chrome. How is Workday worse than oracle?
29
swettiballsApr 1, 2026
+10
Coming from Sage, Workday is amazing. I'm actually quite happy with it and nearly a decade of using it.
10
CeronGamingApr 1, 2026
+22
Why is Workday bad? Thought it was one of the best
22
OkPriority9579Mar 31, 2026
+2531
Larry Ellison is a Pos
2531
Sbarb1000Mar 31, 2026
+496
Remember the 90’s when all Ellison wanted was to beat Bill Gates on the Forbes Billionaire list, he so wanted to beat Bill and be crowned richest man alive.
496
mschuster91Apr 1, 2026
+216
Something similar is how Germany ended up with Merz as chancellor. Got booted by Merkel two decades ago and never got over it.
I‘m sick of tiny male egos ruining the world for everyone in their d*** waving contests.
216
phoney_bolognaApr 1, 2026
+75
Similar with Trump and Obama.
Trump couldn’t handle Obama making him look dumb at a white house dinner event.
75
otter_pop_n_lockMar 31, 2026
+94
Oracle's POS is also a POS.
94
TheFaithfulStoneMar 31, 2026
+34
Don’t make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.
34
Mr_Saturn1Apr 1, 2026
+229
Remember way back to 2022, when tech companies treated mass layoffs as an absolute last resort? Now it's done as a quick stock boost to line shareholder pockets. We live in a terrible reality.
229
Celitha11Apr 1, 2026
+88
Not just tech, almost every industry has started doing that. It used to mean a company is going under. Now they do it a couple times a year to "boost shareholder value." Its disgusting how easily it got accepted as a normal thing.
88
AndromedaGreenMar 31, 2026
+5577
Spouse got the 7am email, so my view is F*** Oracle.
5577
TesticleusMar 31, 2026
+1091
Sorry to hear that.
And, F*** ORACLE.
1091
LaminatedAirplaneMar 31, 2026
+728
It’s
One
Rich
A******
Called
Larry
Ellison
728
birdofmayhemMar 31, 2026
+199
F*** the Ellison and especially his nepo hellison
199
Ruined_ArmorMar 31, 2026
+441
Holy f****** shit. They used emails to fire 30k workers?? What that f***! So sorry, man!
441
IrishPigsMar 31, 2026
+409
Yep. Apparently they didn't even notify managers their staff was getting terminated either.
409
MossITMar 31, 2026
+390
Can confirm. My manager found out I was let go when she tried to send me a message on Slack and my user wasn’t available…
390
IrishPigsMar 31, 2026
+155
RIP. Can't even imagine that. I manage a team of like 10 and if my C suite ever pulled BS like that I'd be so livid.
155
devAcc123Apr 1, 2026
+17
its industry standard, sucks, they send out 2 batches of emails, one says youre toast the other says youve still got a job. Your managers find out when you do and theres rumbles/rumors of layoffs all week. It comes from higher up. Usually a day or two before you get a sense if the rumors are true or not if you've been there long enough to know people who know people. Lots of preemptive cardboard boxes and goodbye hugs. Been through it, on both sides, not fun.
You get about 30 minutes to send any last messages to your coworkers and then youre cut off from everything. Might have access to a temporary email for a week or something to get your checks/tax shit and all that.
17
wtfnevermindApr 1, 2026
+19
Yea I heard that too, basically try folks on Slack and that’ll let you know who’s gone
19
somethingclever76Mar 31, 2026
+143
That is how federal employees were being fired last year by DOGE. They would just get an email and their manager had no idea. The couple of people I personally knew got the email and went to check with their supervisor if it was real. They had no idea either so both had to call HR at the same time to check.
143
counterfitsterApr 1, 2026
+57
Some of them didn't even get an email, they just couldn't use their badge to get into the building in the morning.
57
liftthatta1lApr 1, 2026
+25
Some got fired then had to be brought back. There was a couple of cases that made the national news. One that didn't was near where I was where they fired the entire timber department within 24 hours of trumps EO for more timber production
25
somethingclever76Apr 1, 2026
+13
Yeah, I knew one person who found another job in the meantime and didn't come back when he was able to. So a bunch of talent we lost never came back.
13
KamerlynApr 1, 2026
+51
Half the Department of Education was RIFed via email at 7:38 pm at night March 11 2025. I still have the pics I took of it in my phone.
51
djmakcimMar 31, 2026
+121
They probably used AI to figure out who you pick too.
121
no_diceApr 1, 2026
+13
They do that to prevent leaks. Amazon did the same thing for their mass layoffs.
13
rock_crockpotApr 1, 2026
+9
But do you know how much it costs to fire someone?!
It’s sarcasm, but you know it was discussed. 15min*30,0000 for fucks sake!!
9
Majik_SheffMar 31, 2026
+69
Your view should always be F*** Oracle.
OH, and F*** Broadcom.
69
Feral_Nerd_22Mar 31, 2026
+87
Sorry to hear about that, f****** Oracle.
87
green_goblins_O-faceApr 1, 2026
+24
i mean. my view was f*** oracle before this morning. but now its especially f*** oracle
24
HumanGomJabbarMar 31, 2026
+182
Laying off 30,000 people because you mismanaged the company is despicable, doing it via email is both cowardly and despicable. There should be a law that says you can’t fire people without a 1:1 conversation.
182
birdofmayhemMar 31, 2026
+85
It's less mismanagement and more calculated gains on exactly how many people they could fire while maintaining the bare minimum of operations. Aka pure evil.
85
Ok-Plankton-2016Apr 1, 2026
+46
Not disagreeing, but Oracle took a huuuuuuge bath on its AI investments. Google invested in a way that they owned a lot of the outcomes and didn't lose that much compared to Oracle who poured money into the OpenAI maw.
46
callmedata1Apr 1, 2026
+26
This is what happens when US law is written by the ownership class to mandate paying shareholders of publicly traded companies before anyone else. End Citizens United.
26
dinerdefillesMar 31, 2026
+389
Ellison needs money for his plastic surgery.
389
wenchangerMar 31, 2026
+46
and botox
46
gergekMar 31, 2026
+38
Never gonna fix the ugly insides
38
velveteentuzhiApr 1, 2026
+8
Not gonna fix the ugly outside either without. Man looks like his face is melting and taking his horrid dye job with it
8
Expensive-Notice-509Mar 31, 2026
+1365
My first job out of college was at Sun Microsystems and I got laid off along with thousands of others. Oracle bought out Sun Microsystems and now they are laying off 30k employees. Larry Ellison's stocks are worth $188 Billion.
1365
NudeSpaceDudeMar 31, 2026
+1145
He could pay out a million dollars to each of the fired employees and still have more $150 billion. Billionaires shouldn’t exist.
1145
VaxtinApr 1, 2026
+118
This is what’s wrong with everything. It would change all of those peoples lives and it wouldn’t matter one f*** to Ellison in any practical manner.
118
SalmundoMar 31, 2026
+160
I worked at Sun and eventually Oracle. Retired after 25+ years, got exactly nothing from Oracle after enduring years of zero or minuscule pay raises. Lots of companies have retiree medical plans that both parts pay into. Not Oracle. Larry and Safra need to vacuum up every single nickel into their pockets. F*** the two of them.
160
elchetApr 1, 2026
+14
Hello fellow Sun person!
14
tajetajeMar 31, 2026
+30
RIP Sun
30
Proud-Relative2885Mar 31, 2026
+10085
30,000 people lost their jobs so a board of executives could show investors a better margin. That's it. That's the whole story.
10085
Inj3kt0rMar 31, 2026
+2368
30,000 people lost their jobs so a board of executives could show investors to how great lengths they will promote AISLOP.
2368
random-idiomMar 31, 2026
+303
They don't really need AI to sue people do they? I thought their only business model these days was to sue
303
nihilus_rexMar 31, 2026
+213
Oracle is not my employer, but rather my company’s client, and from their mouths ‘we buy something, sell the assets, fire the employees, and hope to god we don’t go with them.’
They lucked out this time and I think one guy in our building got let go, but they legit posted 2 armed security there all day today.
213
bunnnythorApr 1, 2026
+26
2 armed security?
So they are prejudiced against people with disabilities too??
26
RyvenZApr 1, 2026
+11
It's "sell a company a software suite with all features unlocked, then when they are caught using features they did not pay for, steongarm them into a higher package contract under threat of back charging for the expensive features they used.
It should be illegal
11
Duncan_PhDMar 31, 2026
+57
The AI will be used by the lawyers to lighten their work load ofc
57
JitosApr 1, 2026
+18
I though their business was perpetually ripping off the government (our tax dollars)
18
CygniGlideMar 31, 2026
+275
And they will give themselves huge bonuses for “cost optimizations”
275
RangerLtMar 31, 2026
+54
But what of the EBITA? Have you ever stopped to think of the EBITA??
54
MrTacoManMar 31, 2026
+47
Why did we remove depreciation
47
WillIPostAgainApr 1, 2026
+15
It’s been there a while now and has gotten less valuable over time.
15
xAdakisMar 31, 2026
+93
Not just investors, but the banks themselves. If they don't improve margins, the banks can exercise their rights to take other corrective actions to decrease their risk/liability if not just call the loans.
So, you trim the fat in the easiest place to do so, employees.
93
dijon_snowMar 31, 2026
+96
Depends on what you mean by "trim the fat." Cutting front line employees who are likely productive and good values for their salaries is probably more effective and less difficult than the alternatives. I would contend the opposite is actually easier.
Cut executive compensation or senior leadership roles entirely. They are far more replaceable at much lower salaries than the 100s of employees their salaries could pay, or do not contribute significant value at all.
The only problem is these decisions are made by the most expensive, most expendable employees...
96
xilcilusMar 31, 2026
+44
Even the fairly lower level ORCL employees are making $100K+ in the US. VPs in the US are making maybe $800k+. Oracle probably has a structure of 1 VP for every 50 - 100 employees. Cutting executives wouldn't have saved nearly as much.
Also, I can guarantee that plenty of big wigs also got impacted (EVPs and higher probably had minimal impact).
44
-Golf-Addict-Mar 31, 2026
+19
It’s funny you say this. The last company I worked for, bought another company for a couple hundred million just before Covid hit. The newly bought company tanked and my vice president told me the bank wanted them to cut in places or they would raise the interest from 6% all the way up to 10 on the new loan. On a couple hundred million dollar loan, that is a lot. It baffled me when i heard that.
19
AutomaticBoarMar 31, 2026
+63
The company doesn’t work for it’s employees, the company works for the shareholders. If employees want the company to work for them then they should ~~seize the means of production~~ buy shares
63
sowalgayboiMar 31, 2026
+35
Yeah, with a little over 2.876 billion shares outstanding they'd just need a little shy of $500 billion.
Should they check couch cushions or just give up that daily latte to squeeze that into their budget?
35
HS_HowCan_That_BeQMMar 31, 2026
+663
This used to be said about Oracle:
"Oracle is a great place to work. You can work half-days if you want. And they don't care which 12 hours you pick."
663
dominosideApr 1, 2026
+150
ORACLE = One Rich A****** Called Larry Ellison
150
thyfoolish1Apr 1, 2026
+284
My Dad was laid off today by email after 43 years. F*** Oracle they can eat a bag of dicks.
284
Lovey723Apr 1, 2026
+59
Hope you and Dad are ok. Your Dad and I are probably the same age. Hope he can rest and recover.
59
SchnurzelburzApr 1, 2026
+43
After 43 years at Oracle he should be a millionaire, though, unless he was a janitor or something.
43
JobAnxious2005Apr 1, 2026
+16
What does getting laid off after that period look like?
Big package and early retirement or a kick in the teeth
16
iamacheeto1Apr 1, 2026
+395
It’s a good reminder to make sure you always do less at work. They do not care about you.
395
warm_kitchenetteApr 1, 2026
+197
On one of the Oracle groups, there was a guy who said he had skipped all his parental leave so he could seem committed to the company. Of course he got the email this morning.
It’s all very saddening.
197
HusbeastGamesApr 1, 2026
+45
while i feel for that person getting laid off unceremoniously, not taking parental leave is a self-own.
45
warm_kitchenetteApr 1, 2026
+10
Of course. But that’s the pathos of it, and the lesson for others. He thought his sacrifice would have meaning and value.
10
devAcc123Apr 1, 2026
+17
Different company but my coworker went on parental leave, got laid off during it, never saw them again.
17
GunsensualApr 1, 2026
+27
When the work is finish switch off the laptop computer, switch off the phone, switch off the brain, tell your boss to take the after-hours emails and shove it up their ass.
27
--Rick--Astley--Mar 31, 2026
+642
Is it because Oracle is losing money? Or, is it because greedy shareholders want more profits?
642
AshendantMar 31, 2026
+703
It's apparently because Oracle spent 58 Billion dollars on AI Data Centers in 2 months.
703
LeftHandedGraffitiMar 31, 2026
+294
Good god. That's 290,000 employees with a salary of 200k. Or nearly 10 years of salary for 30,000 people.
And companies think this is a good investment.
294
zoobrixMar 31, 2026
+55
They probably haven't come close to actually commiting that amount of money though. All of these agreements to buy 100 billion or whatever of AI data centers all have off ramps in the contract and so you might find that only 10 billion is actually in the process of starting to get built. But with everyone looking to be the biggest baddest AI company in town they announce some massive dollar value of compute they're building, and of course suppliers like to put it on their order books so they look good to their investors too.
But while yes this increased demand has led to shortages of components like ram and storage I'd bet you'll still only see a fraction of these contracts actually end with the full dollar value getting built. Winners in the AI space will start to emerge long before you could possibly build all this compute power and the losers will take those off ramps and cancel most of what they announced they were buying.
55
kombiwombiMar 31, 2026
+18
That makes it sound orderly. But in a three way contract with OpenAI and SoftBank, Oracle is the partner spending the money prior to payment. So an 'off ramp' leaves Oracle holding the bag.
18
DarthHeelMar 31, 2026
+93
It's to pay for investment in AI.
An interesting twist on the current "jobs lost due to AI" is companies like Oracle and Meta who are cutting employees to pay for AI capex investment, not because they've automated away their jobs.
93
thinpileMar 31, 2026
+195
Yes
195
1_ofthesedaysMar 31, 2026
+33
40% of orcl is one share holder
33
Off-BroadwayJoeMar 31, 2026
+993
The US needs to really think about how to better secure and protect its workforce or we’ll have 20% unemployment before this term ends.
993
ChicagoCowboyMar 31, 2026
+560
If we could just consistently elect pro labor progressives instead of having a stroke every 4 years and electing a toddler, the world and our country would be an infinitely better place.
560
YeOldeMuppetPastorApr 1, 2026
+204
Sorry. The best we can do is progressives sitting on their hands when they don’t get their ideal candidate.
204
fermatajackApr 1, 2026
+85
This is my favorite argument used against progressives and leftists. They need to capitulate and give up their beliefs and ideals, otherwise it's their fault that the f****** Democrats lose.
Tell the Dems to stop forcing progressive candidates off of ballots via lawsuits and red tape. They'd rather fight dirty with leftists than stand up to conservatives with anything but a whimper.
85
woodyshagApr 1, 2026
+24
They won't ever say it though. They change the way it is calculated and suddenly we are at 4%.
24
uwshermApr 1, 2026
+4
US software jobs may be done for, but 100% unemployment there would move the overall rate by < 2%, not 20. They’re just overrepresented on listnook. The time for the tech workforce to start protecting itself was 15+ years ago.
4
MoralltaMar 31, 2026
+214
Are we surprised? This is Larry Ellison we're talking about here. He's not exactly known for his ethics.
214
MrIntegrationMar 31, 2026
+42
What billionaire is?
42
kigam_redditApr 1, 2026
+29
Mackenzie Scott
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M4rshmall0wManMar 31, 2026
+68
Most aren’t but Ellison is a special breed. Even in his early days he would go on interviews saying all he cared about was making others lose.
68
jontheterribleMar 31, 2026
+137
My view is to show zero loyalty to any corporation.
They will never look out for you.
You owe them nothing.
It's completely transactional. You work, they pay, that's it.
137
xAdakisMar 31, 2026
+312
Despite the narrative, it's not because of artificial intelligence.
It's due to their acquisition of Cerner for $28 Billion back in 2022 not working out as they hoped.
They have a ton of high-interest debt that is coming due and no means to pay it. The banks don't want to do business with them because they are an increasing liability.
To get the banks off their back, they have to improve margins and decrease the risk, and- unfortunately -the easiest way to do that is to lay people off.
It sucks for the employees, but that is what happens when you take risks that don't work out.
**EDIT**:
Since this is blowing up, I should clarify that this is purely my supposition based on the news articles I have read and the recent major moves by Oracle.
I shouldn't have worded it so much like I knew exactly what was happening.
I could be wrong about it, but that was my impression and makes logical sense to me.
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kc_cycloneMar 31, 2026
+124
As someone who survived today and came via Cerner I dont entirely disagree. Problem is they thought they could buy Cerners customers and deliver a new AI based product quickly that is making no money currently, we had an EVP and SVP get let go a few weeks back due to that. The bigger problem on top of that $28B is the amount invested since on AI infrastructure that takes forever to make returns. Hell the Cerner acquisition came with a $16B fed contract that's still in full flight.
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YomizatsuneApr 1, 2026
+37
Execs being let go is a red flag I encourage others to remember, that and any huge leadership change in general. Almost always means mass layoffs
37
kc_cycloneApr 1, 2026
+7
Agree, wasn't my direct SVP just another who reported to the EVP. Said EVP just got promoted last year and had another EVP above him who's still around and reports to Larry. Layoffs were across the board, the structure has Larry and our 2 CEOs with their own lines with those 3 reporting to the board, which of course is Larry at the end of the day.
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HandOfTheCEOApr 1, 2026
+10
With this level of a fuckup, the CEO should resign as well. Put some meaning in "taking responsibility".
10
RevslowmoMar 31, 2026
+11
What department is most the 30,000 from?
11
ThePirateKing01Apr 1, 2026
+72
30,000!???? What’s the largest single-day layoff by a company ever?
EDITS: looks like it was IBM in 1993 with 60,000 in the private sector. In the public sector it was around 300,000 with f****** DOGE, but that’s been back/forth a bit. So yeah for anyone asking how our government can possibly act like how it’s acting, that’s a big reason
72
LaserGuidedDemocracyApr 1, 2026
+72
It's time to boot up Luigi's Mansion again
72
Classic_Mango_4114Mar 31, 2026
+40
F*** the tech oligarchs.
40
Only1SchematicMar 31, 2026
+160
This is how Luigis are born
160
LegacyLemurApr 1, 2026
+23
They made damn sure to make an example out of him for this reason
23
RedditReader4031Mar 31, 2026
+302
Larry Ellison needs a share price boost to uphold his end of the conservative media takeover plan which includes the purchase of Warner Bros Discovery. To sweeten the deal, he made some huge $$$ guarantees.
302
fireturnMar 31, 2026
+116
One
Rich
A******
Called
Larry
Ellison
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1RedOneApr 1, 2026
+21
Once every 10 years, a company decides that it must destroy itself in trying to acquire Warner Brothers
21
LJonRedditApr 1, 2026
+6
There it is. The most sensible answer in this whole thread.
6
Homebase78Mar 31, 2026
+64
Email at 6am is diabolical.
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colbsk1Apr 1, 2026
+28
This is how people end up in the newspaper.
28
Jeff-ITMar 31, 2026
+59
Buddy of mine who works at Oracle said his team of 10 turned into a team of 6. Lost 40% of his team, and probably morale, just so the company can save money
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bainjApr 1, 2026
+52
My sales team went from 18 to less than 6. We overachieved the sales targets but were gutted still.
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Cybertrucker01Apr 1, 2026
+25
Sadly, from a consultant's perspective that simple statistic was probably the red flag that suggested there's too much fat in the team. Of course there's more nuance, but if you're tasked to cut 30,000 jobs noone looks beyond the high level numbers.
They see a team of 18 people doing 200% target and ask: is the target too soft or is it a superstar team? Let's hedge our bets and cut a chunk of the team, if they are indeed superstars the remaining members should be able to pick up the open opportunities delivered to their laps, if the target is too soft we just bumped it up. Problem solved.
25
LadySilvieApr 1, 2026
+54
I have some former coworkers who literally just left my company (within the last three or four months) because they were offered jobs at Oracle that promised better salaries and supposed security. One just adopted a special-needs infant last year out of the foster care system, and is the primary provider for her family. I don't know if she was involved, but so far, I've heard at least one other friend in her department lost their job from this.
I'm so angry and sad for them.
On top of that, Oracle is one of the biggest employers in the city I grew up in. I'm sure all the jobs in that city are going to be overwhelmed with applicants, now, and I'm already aware that lot of folks in my field were struggling as-is.
AI is destroying the livelihoods of literally everyone I talk to IRL. Either it is making our jobs harder (more hoops to jump through, pressure to show how we're utilizing AI for efficiency, even if it is actively worse than doing the work ourselves), rendering us obsolete, or the threat of one of those is looming over everyone.
It's so exhausting, and frustrating. I don't even know what career I could pivot to if I eventually lose my job from this, and the thought keeps me up at night. I know there are a lot of other folks who will be sleepless after this announcement, too.
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InevitableCodeRedoMar 31, 2026
+46
Oracle has been a piece-of-shit company since day one. Any software developer with any experience in enterprise Oracle database implementations will easily back that opinion. I could also go on about the acquisition of Java and how they handled that. So no surprise whatsoever here.
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zzztokenMar 31, 2026
+58
FAFO like Amazon & every other organization is going to when this AI shit doesn’t work out.
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flybynightpotatoApr 1, 2026
+35
That day can't come soon enough, honestly. We might all get sucked down with the ship, at least temporarily, but a Pyrrhic victory would still be enjoyable.
35
zzztokenApr 1, 2026
+26
Not going to comment who, but my (tech) CEO even gave us a speech about how we can’t become over dependent on AI because the bubble is going to pop and there will be a lot of companies who have over invested in it that will fall. We use it to support, not to replace.
26
tin-f0il-manApr 1, 2026
+8
He sounds like a smart guy.
8
gezpachuMar 31, 2026
+143
they threw too much money at scam altman
143
Jane_LameMar 31, 2026
+62
And at buying paramount. Which is probably the reason the layoffs happened. They took on a massive amount of debt buying it. To the point where I think their credit ratting dropped.
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Capitol_MilApr 1, 2026
+21
Firing employees at that scale should be a seen as an embarrassing failure. Not celebrated by the empty suits of the company
21
ErikTheEngineerApr 1, 2026
+16
I think it's the tip of the iceberg for the entire white collar world. Oracle isn't building AI models but they seem to have found a use for all those Oracle Cloud datacenters and are building more. It's impossible to get hardware now if you aren't a hyperscale cloud or AI company, and they're all circular-dealing with one another. It's covering up economic weakness and is going to be a huge mess when it all pops. But, all these companies are doing this for one purpose only - they want to be the company that can throw money into the furnace 5 minutes longer than anyone else and rule the world after some massive breakthrough.
I've been in IT at large companies for quite a while. The number of people collecting healthy 6 figure salaries for sending emails, moving graphics around on PowerPoint slides or writing soulless marketing copy is staggering. Large companies hire "classes" of generic business students every year and they're all doing some form of busywork that is now almost ready to be completely eliminated. The effects of millions of solid jobs disappearing and being replaced with trades or menial service jobs are not going to be good, and you know it won't be managed well. 30-40% unemployment and much greater underemployment might finally be enough to have French Revolution 2.0.
I worry what's going to happen for the future. Executives are 100% disconnected from the real world and have no clue whatsoever how a normal family operates in the economy because they've never had a normal existence. Jumping right from an Ivy League MBA to management consulting and then a director s*** means they've never had to work a day in their lives...it's the easiest job on planet Earth and laying off 30,000 people is just an everyday occurrence to them. Don't expect 3 day workweeks and a life of leisure in this post-AI world, expect living in a trailer and working at McDonald's if you're lucky.
16
Alert_Cup780Mar 31, 2026
+218
I was one of them. Honestly f*** the company, I was working for Evil Inc. so I could make money. Never selling my soul again and I have a decent nest egg to ensure that
218
Davey503Mar 31, 2026
+87
I survived today but part of me was hoping to get the email so I'd finally be free. At this point, I'm applying at places with lower salary range because I can't stomach working at a place this evil anymore.
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GlorbAndAGloobApr 1, 2026
+28
Same, plus I got the good news that I get to cover the work of my laid off peers!
28
I_might_be_weaselApr 1, 2026
+16
If giant companies are getting tax breaks and special zoning accommodations because they make jobs then they have to make jobs. Since they don't have any responsibility to do that, time to make them pay the same as normal people.
16
SChightowerApr 1, 2026
+12
What’s the difference between God and Larry Ellison?
God doesn’t think he’s Larry Ellison
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Think_Inspector_4031Apr 1, 2026
+28
Decouple insurance from work. Health care for all, run on taxes on those who have disposable income.
28
chunkalunkkMar 31, 2026
+9
Waiting impatiently for the AI bubble to pop so GUPs will go on super fire sale.
9
gyunistudioApr 1, 2026
+9
I miss when Oracle was a tech-first company. In the 7.3.4 era, everything was about pushing the limits of the database. Now, they've become this strange entity that's more interested in trend-hopping and legal audits than actual breakthrough tech. 30,000+ layoffs is just the latest symptom of that lost identity.
9
s_sApr 1, 2026
+9
Oracle's finances are fucked.
They are too exposed to the popping AI bubble, and they will not be a company by 2028.
9
filmguy36Mar 31, 2026
+17
My view is this: Ellison way over paid for Warner and is roughly 1 billion plus in debt, rather an restructuring, he fires 30k to make up part of the short fall
17
Fidrych76Mar 31, 2026
+8
Ellison is a POS
8
Pale_Height_1251Mar 31, 2026
+26
They have a tonne of debt that they realise won't be paid back, so the balance sheet has to be trimmed.
The unpleasant truth is that Oracle and a lot of large companies employ more people than they really need.
26
gerrard_1987Apr 1, 2026
+13
Perfect argument for why we should dedicate our lives to not supporting investor-owned companies, and should tax the living shit out of companies that lay thousands of people off to replace their productivity with AI. They’re vampires, and we need to harness the power of the government to take their blood.
13
drummerboy2749Mar 31, 2026
+36
My Dad got fired from Oracle in 2006 after missing his Q4 sales numbers after 7-consecutive quarters of 100%+ attainment.
His daughter/my sister committed suicide in Q4 of 2006 and he was on bereavement leave.
F*** Oracle.
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happy-cigMar 31, 2026
+5
Stock price went up too...
Eat the rich!
5
rexspookApr 1, 2026
+6
I hope these large companies laying off large swathes of people to temporarily boost stock prices see severe, negative long term effects.
Oracle is a necrotising malignant tumor on the IT industry. I have had the great pleasure of removing oracle to the maximum extent possible from my employer’s infrastructure. Sorry to the people losing their jobs - leaving an abusive relationship is hard but much better in the long run.
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