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What show tells you “this person and I are not going to get along…” when they have really strong feelings for/against it?

Posted by TheWor1dsFinest

I’m an older millennial and I’ve dated a couple women over the years that swore Lena Dunham’s “Girls” was the best show ever and “basically \[their\] life.” Each of them proved to be really unstable, toxic people. I’ve only just come around to finally watching some of it and now it all makes sense why it would resonate with them. It’s become a red flag show for me when someone REALLY identifies with it.
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Diet_Coke 22 hr ago +223
If someone likes The Great Pottery Throwdown, we can be friends
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Underwater_Karma 17 hr ago +38
It's brilliant! *Tears up a bit*
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ExtraGloves 12 hr ago +7
I love how his version of the Paul Hollywood handshake is tearing up.
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quintk 19 hr ago +19
Nice to meet you!
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EllaShue 16 hr ago +12
Oh, hi, friend! Such a good show. If you love it, you might also enjoy Blown Away, the art glass competition. It doesn't have that laid back British reality competition show feel, but it's also excellent, and the work itself is fascinating to watch.
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AliMcGraw 15 hr ago +8
hahaha, I was about to throw hands about you crapping on The Great Pottery Throwdown but hey, now we're besties! IT IS A PERFECT SHOW.
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grippysockgang 17 hr ago +6
Where do you watch?
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RealPrincessPrincess 16 hr ago +4
It’s free to watch on the Roku channel. Check the app and there are a few seasons.
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eanglsand 19 hr ago +5
Even the soundtrack is great
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littlefactory 15 hr ago +2
Oh my God, look at that giant beaver!
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spinereader81 20 hr ago +151
Not a particular show, but I won't get along with anyone who absolutely hates anything in a foreign language and refuses to even consider watching it, even dubbed. 
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TheWor1dsFinest 20 hr ago +59
This is how I feel about anyone who refuses to watch “old” movies.
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siiilenttbob 13 hr ago +14
And if they consider '90s movies "old", I'm throwing hands 👊
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kyzfrintin 10 hr ago +2
That would be child abuse
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Capt_Billy 16 hr ago +26
I'll watch subbed movies all day, but will not watch a dub lol. It loses something in the performance.
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Sparrowsabre7 12 hr ago +8
It depends for me. I will watch some animated stuff dubbed. But I'll never watch a live action dub. Feels downright disrespectful to the actors, you're essentially only getting half their performance.
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Capt_Billy 11 hr ago +5
Anime there are maybe 5-6 where I think the dub is equivalent and maybe even better. But most anime nowadays is just SoCal vocal fry, so pass. But yes live action not so much
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taxicab_ 13 hr ago +4
My husband called something from the 2000’s “old” and I died inside. He’s not even that young, but his parents didn’t expose him to the good stuff.
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Bargetown 15 hr ago +9
Or used to great effect in movies like A Fistful of Dollars and Susperia, where half the cast was speaking Italian, and the other half English, then dubbed over the relevant halves to release in both countries. Lots of spaghetti westerns and giallos did it. It gives it a weird, distant, affect. Like everyone is talking through each other, not to them. Kind of a proto-Yorgos Lanthimos vibe.
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ThisMayBeAquatic 14 hr ago +5
I had a friend, I repeat “HAD” a friend that used to not to want to watch any foreign films, even though I love foreign cinema. I’m not even joking here but he told me he won’t watch Slumdog Millionare because it’s and I quote “Bollywood”. I have new friends now lol
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fearthainne 21 hr ago +249
TBH making *anything* your entire personality is usually a red flag, regardless what it is. Being a fan of something is fine, and even being really into it is also fine (I go on a floating Star Trek convention that's on a cruise ship, so I get it), but when it's what you live and breathe and become enraged if other people don't like it, that's too much.
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SixGunSnowWhite 21 hr ago +48
Those cruises look like they’d either be super fun or a floating dungeon of bad smells and awkward forced celeb interactions. We’ve definitely considered it!
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fearthainne 21 hr ago +39
I can't speak for all of them, but the one I go on is *a lot* of fun. I haven't actually been on a regular cruise, but the Trekkies on the ST cruise who have, have all told me it ruins regular cruises because people are much better behaved on it. I'm going on #4 in February!
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cidvard 21 hr ago +26
I saw footage of Armin Shimmerman tending the bar and instantly put it on my bucket list.
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suddle 14 hr ago +3
Jesus. I’ve never wanted to go on a cruise until I read this!
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FX114 21 hr ago +18
I think any cruise dedicated to a specific community is going to be better than one with a bunch of random people.
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RegulatoryCapture 17 hr ago +9
I can see that being a tv show subplot.  Characters go on a nerdy themed cruise and there’s somebody there who has no real interest in the cruise, they just signed up because it meant they could avoid “cruise people”. 
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HerbsAndSpices11 14 hr ago +3
The closest I can think of is the one Black Mirror episode where the main character hitches a ride with some people going to a convention by pretending to be really into it while not having watched it at all.
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sekritagent 19 hr ago +10
The fitness warrior community especially here on Listnook... apparently the solution to every problem is the gym...baby that's not a personality...
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Techhead7890 14 hr ago +2
Delete the gym, facebook up, hit lawyers? /s
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KEC112992 17 hr ago +74
People who still earnestly think Walter White did everything he did for his family. Even when he says otherwise at the end. 
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Sparrowsabre7 12 hr ago +10
Equally people who genuinely hate Skyler with a passion. Of my knowledge of the show before watcbing: 10% memes 90% Skyler hate. Having watched it last year it genuinely baffles me that people think Skyler is in the wrong for basically anything she does to cope with Walt's downward spiral. The Ted affair *maybe* but everything else is a fairly reasonable reaction to your husband going off the deep end.
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Noddie 13 hr ago +1
For anyone curious about his moral journey BBC did a pretty good write up about it here: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24281785
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MistyPower 18 hr ago +39
It’s less feelings towards a show and more what their actual opinions are. Reality TV is dumb but I don’t judge the people who find it entertaining. But if someone tells me they hated Skylar White in particular, my blood boils. What’s funny is that I’ve found something far more irritating than discovering you and another person like different shows. It’s somehow so much more aggravating when you like the same shows but have completely polar opinions.
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PunAboutBeingTrans 13 hr ago +18
I always disliked Skylar but years later I discovered that a bunch of people hated her because they thought she was wrong? Like, I didn't like her because I thought the way she spoke and generally handled herself was annoying. She just has a personality that I find grating and a lot of her lines feel so aggressively pearl clutching that it pissed me off. But that's not the same thing as "Walter was right and Skylar is a b****" lmao. No she was definitely right she was just acting like my mother about it 🤣
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leewalkermusic 15 hr ago +5
I disliked Skylar White while watching BB. I think it comes down to good writing that they perfectly frame Walt as an antihero you want to “win” and you’re on the bandwagon. Anyone who threatens to derail that wagon becomes the enemy, which she definitely was. She did some very shitty things as a wife of course but she wasn’t the villain. It’s only on reflection or your second totally objective watch through that you realise Walt is for lack of a better term, a narcissistic c*** who prior to his drug lord escapades simply didn’t have the power to exercise his personality disorder on any level otherwise he’d have unmasked much earlier.
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mamrieatepainttt 22 hr ago +387
Big bang theory as their favorite comedy.
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Steavee 17 hr ago +17
Look I’ll get pilloried, but I always found it watchable. I grew up with traditional sitcom TV though, Cheers, Seinfeld, Frasier, Friends, etc. so I guess that shouldn’t be that surprising. It was never my favorite show or anything, but I never hated watching it.
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Underwater_Karma 22 hr ago +182
A friend described BBT to me as "what dumb people think smart people are like", and i was never able to see it any other way. It was just bullying smart and educated people, in sitcom form
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TheWor1dsFinest 22 hr ago +98
That’s from a very old meme as I recall. It was something like: BBT = About smart people. For dumb people. Frasier = About smart people. For smart people. It Always Sunny in Philadelphia = About dumb people. For smart people. And I can’t remember what the “about dumb people. For dumb people” was.
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horriblehank 21 hr ago +90
Yellowstone 
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Jasino76 18 hr ago +25
2 and a half Men?
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Luchalma89 20 hr ago +31
I've never thought of Sunny as a smart comedy. It's funny and I like it, but I find that interesting.
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mamrieatepainttt 19 hr ago +25
Anything irreverent or off brand is labeled as smart sometimes.
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jdbolick 21 hr ago +39
Jackass?
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TheWor1dsFinest 21 hr ago +11
That would make sense.
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151Shotz 21 hr ago +33
Reality tv = about dumb people for dumb people
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suddle 14 hr ago +3
I used to think that too, but plenty of doctors and other well-educated people with stressful lives have commented that they love to zone out by watching escapist reality TV. I’m not going to call an ER doctor dumb for wanting to turn their brain off for a while after a twelve hour shift saving people. I myself have C-PTSD, so having something always playing on the screen in the background is extremely helpful. I watch one Netflix reality show and one Netflix dating show. I limit myself, because I don’t want to get drawn into any weird parasocial worlds, but I get it. It’s meaningless. There are no stakes with these staged faux drama shows.
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Underwater_Karma 21 hr ago +3
If you don't start a new thread asking this question, i will.
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TheWor1dsFinest 21 hr ago +8
lol go for it.
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Neracca 19 hr ago +65
> A friend described BBT to me as "what dumb people think smart people are like", and i was never able to see it any other way. Dude that's the coldest take ever. Listnook says that a thousand times a day.
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LaxSagacity 18 hr ago +5
Back when IMDB had message boards, I once looked a the one for BBT. The posts literally were, "This show is like doing homework, they mentioned string theory. I've heard of that."
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zoooeys 21 hr ago +21
My wife’s dad loves it, and he is a physics professor and chess coach, I DO NOT understand it. I think it might just be a generational thing like “omg physics? Popular? What a time to be alive!”
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mamrieatepainttt 19 hr ago +19
Probably think its neat to see some kind of representation even if its fictional.
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Pliskin14 10 hr ago +3
I'm a Theoretical Physics PhD and love it. Most people in my engineering/physics entourage loved it.
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YLCZ 19 hr ago +3
Scorpion fit that definition to me. Someone I lived with must have liked that show because it wasn’t my idea to watch it. At least the Big Bang characters could be funny. Scorpion just was insulting our collective intelligence by being so stupid
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Wintersc 18 hr ago +8
Absolute listnook comment I think the dead internet theory may be correct
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Opus-the-Penguin 21 hr ago +3
Eh. It's more "what smart people think dumb people think smart people are like."
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Vdbebw 19 hr ago +16
Its a dumb, but fun show but "certain" people get absolutely triggered if you refuse to call it worse then the avatar movie, and i find that really funny
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mamrieatepainttt 19 hr ago +6
Why is anyone comparing a huge sci fi blockbuster movie to bbt?? Just like the most disliked movie you could think of?
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nosaint63 22 hr ago +31
This generations Nickleback. Everyone likes to shit on it, but somehow it's vastly popular.
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mamrieatepainttt 22 hr ago +9
I will say i believe Nickelback actually is decent. I say that as someone that contributed to the hate. But some of their stuff is actually good. Something I will never say about BBT.
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Cockrocker 17 hr ago +4
As a musician, it's exactly the same as the BBT meme; Nickelback are what regular punters think good rock music is like. Yeah, they have talent, but no taste.
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Amedais 19 hr ago +28
Honestly the passion with which listnookors hate BBT makes me like it more.
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nancyneurotic 16 hr ago +15
Honestly, I find it a cozy, simple watch. And to take it even a step further, I really liked Young Sheldon! My 6th graders kept recommending it to me so I finally watched and then couldn't put it down. Annie Potts is still a damn goddess.
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tbo1992 15 hr ago +6
Young Sheldon is miles better than either of the other two shows, but none are really bad, they’re just CBS comedies.
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BwDr 15 hr ago +3
I loved Young Sheldon, so tried to watch BBT & really couldn’t get into it.
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whatintheactualfeth 21 hr ago +12
"You're just not smart enough to understand it." Actual quote from a "friend" when I said I didn't like BBT.
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Frigid-Beezy 19 hr ago +36
Not a show but anyone who thinks Jordan Belfore is cool and aspirational after watching Wolf of Wallstreet
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MarkRJ 21 hr ago +166
Landman. Yellowstone. Anything with that vibe..
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Muroid 21 hr ago +65
I was just on a flight where the guy in front of me had on a MAGA hat and a climate change denial T-Shirt. Guess what he watched for the entire flight.
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platypuslost 21 hr ago +37
Hard agree on Yellowstone (the only one of these I’ve seen). Any characters whose main premise is “I’m not like the other girls. I’m SO COOL because I’m depressed and bitter and mean. Those things make me superior” sucks imo. I can’t stand people like that in real life. They’re exhausting. I definitely don’t want to watch them for fun.
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Horror-Atmosphere-90 21 hr ago +18
God I had so many coworkers at my old job just spontaneously tell me how good Yellowstone was and I just *had* to watch it
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StuffonBookshelfs 20 hr ago +18
Next time tell them about your favorite books, they’ll immediately leave you alone forever. Oh. Old job. Never mind.
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AKAkorm 16 hr ago +7
I gave in and watched Yellowstone because my friend kept recommending it to me and I really enjoyed Taylor Sheridan's movies (Hell or High Water in particular). I found it to be pretty bad from the get-go and so unlike his other stuff. Unlikable characters, clumsy plotting. Beth, in particular, made me want to turn off the TV every time she came on the screen.
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Stellaaahhhh 19 hr ago +4
Ugh. I love my sister but she is into all that slop. I just say I haven't gotten into any of those shows,  and let her tell me about them when she brings them up. They're so terrible and lame but I'm not trying to steal anyone's joy.
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Calhalen 22 hr ago +184
People who didn’t like The Wire. And this is my d***** bag take, I recognize this, but when people make The Office their whole personality I want nothing to do with them
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Unumbotte 22 hr ago +82
"She's such a Pam! But I'm more of a Stinkum."
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SlobZombie13 19 hr ago +22
Just a Stringer looking for his Avon
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LT_DANS_ICECREAM 20 hr ago +8
Im a snotboogie myself
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itwillmakesenselater 19 hr ago +2
Omar comin'!
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Anti-Itch 19 hr ago +8
His mom gave him a perfectly good name and he goes by Stinkum?!
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TheSecondEikonOfFire 21 hr ago +36
I love The Office, but some of the really insane fans are just obnoxious. I knew this girl once where it was basically the only thing she watched, and she just watched it on repeat. When she finished season 9, she’d jus start it over, and it was this weird point of pride for her
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ninjagirl878 19 hr ago +12
I knew a girl that did the same thing with How I Met Your Mother. She even had a yellow umbrella tattoo
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CarpeMofo 18 hr ago +10
I don't like The Wire. It's not because I think it's a bad show at all. I've been dealing with horrific depressing shit since I was old enough to have a memory. I'm tired and just want to watch shit that makes me happy or is at least cathartic.
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NeapolitanPink 18 hr ago +7
My greatest shame is that I didn't like the Wire. I watched the first two episodes and I just didn't care. I also struggled with the amount of unexplained jargon. I understand this is the point but I already am really, really bad with names so the names, slang, and police terms were making my brain spin. I don't want to disrupt the flow of the show by watching and pausing to write things down. I really want to watch so I can get to the season about the education system because I hear it's an extremely grim and accurate depiction of US schools, but I just don't think I can get there.
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travelstuff 16 hr ago +10
I found watching with subtitles helped a lot
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RaffyGiraffy 16 hr ago +2
I’m watching it now for the first time, I’m on season 4 which is the education one. It might now by my favourite show of all time. But I get the jargon point, I feel like the first season both the cops and dealers are talking in so much slang or jargon but you do get used to it.
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instanorm 17 hr ago +12
Anyone with a sons of anarchy vest I'm avoiding
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growsonwalls 22 hr ago +64
Irl it’s different but online Bridgerton superfans are the worst. The ship wars are exhausting.
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Emilytea14 18 hr ago +11
Wars??? What is there to war about, there ain't really love triangles or any mystery as to who is gonna end up with who
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growsonwalls 18 hr ago +9
It’s like the stans of the different couples harass the actors. Simone, Nicola, Hannah have all been massively harassed.
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ElaineofAstolat 19 hr ago +11
They're really mean. I haven't seen the show yet, but I said something about the books that they didn't like and they sent me all sorts of nasty messages.
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Underwater_Karma 22 hr ago +32
Ok, but the entire premise of the show is literally "shipping"
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growsonwalls 22 hr ago +15
Yeah but constantly sending hatred actors way bc of shipping wars is almost normalized.
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SuperSailorRikku 17 hr ago +3
Listnook started recommending me bridgerton sublistnooks and I find them kinda hilarious. I have never seen Bridgerton (past the first episode years ago) or read the books though. I know entirely too much about that show now and I still have no interest in watching it
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LiteraryTea 22 hr ago +108
I know there are people out there that resonate with Don from Mad Men. Those people need to stay away from me.
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kaophyre 21 hr ago +86
mad men is the best TV show ever made and it goes to great lengths to show you Don sucks in a realistic, human way that is the product of his times, his upbringing, our expectations of men in the era, and capitalism's slow-working poisoning of the American dream. but he still sucks
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StuffonBookshelfs 20 hr ago +22
Exactly! He’s an a-hole even with cultural context.
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YourGlacier 21 hr ago +52
I like tragic and shitty characters. Draper is very human to me and resonates with me for similar reason Saul Goodman does. I think the real red flag is condoning or not realizing he’s the bad guy, like the people who think American Psycho is from the POV of a cool dude.
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The92nd 21 hr ago +26
Same with people who idolize Jordan Belfort in Wolf of Wall Street
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LiteraryTea 21 hr ago +11
I'm more talking about if they idolize him and want to be like him.
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PJSeeds 18 hr ago +8
I work in advertising when I started in the industry so many dudes I worked with tried to make Don Draper their entire personality and missed the point entirely
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AgentOfSPYRAL 20 hr ago +6
The Virgin Don resonator vs the Chad Ken Cosgrove (accounts) resonator.
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PunAboutBeingTrans 13 hr ago +3
Mad Men is such a hard one because Don is on one hand *so* f****** awesome when he starts talking. On the other hand he is *so* awful when he does like, almost anything else lol. I envy his speaking skills, not his values
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doomgeneration91 17 hr ago +27
If someone actively dislikes community 👁️👄👁️
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CarpeMofo 18 hr ago +20
It depends on the specific feeling, but Fight Club. I absolutely love that movie, it's one of my all time favorites. But the people who think Tyler Durden is some awesome, charismatic anarchist fighting against an unjust system through manhood are f****** insane. Tyler Durden is a charismatic fascist.
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LetMeOverThinkThat 15 hr ago +6
Yeah, he's just so hot though.
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PunAboutBeingTrans 13 hr ago +2
This one haunts me lmao. David Fincher is by far my favorite director but I always have to follow that up with "Not because of Fight Club, it's a good movie but not his best, I am not a weird Fight Club fan." Like yeah it is a great movie. But people get really weird about it and miss the point. Also The Social Network and Girl With The Dragon Tattoo are better showings from Fincher imo.
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HighMarshalSigismund 22 hr ago +61
Not that I've ever met someone but I'd say if they're super into Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss would be a red flag. Maybe 7 years ago it would be the h******* Rick and Morty folks.
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htp-di-nsw 22 hr ago +29
I really like those shows, but the sublistnooks are insufferable. They're full of: - shippers - drawings of original characters/self inserts - powerscalers, somehow? My 13 year old son talking about Dragonball feats is plenty for me, thanks Not interested, thanks.
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macarenamobster 21 hr ago +7
Yeah I enjoy the shows but I’ve felt no burning urge to discuss them or make them a big part of my personality. They are entertaining though. To be fair that’s the case for almost every show I watch and I watch way too much tv.
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TheSecondEikonOfFire 21 hr ago +9
Same. I think the shows are a blast and I really enjoy them, but the fan bases are… I don’t know what the right word is. Intense?
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Worried-Struggle2788 22 hr ago +23
yeah hazbin hotel fans are... something else. met a few on base and they're always the ones with like anime stickers all over their car and way too many opinions about voice actors. rick and morty thing is so accurate though, remember when you couldn't escape the "to be fair you need high iq" copypasta? those people were exhausting in real life too.
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HighMarshalSigismund 22 hr ago +5
Not to mention I'm sure they knew what they were doing when they made the character mockup for Luna. I've seen some disturbing things based around that character.
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MappleStarsSky 22 hr ago +53
What you think of the ending of 500 days of summer tells me a lot about you as a person and how you engage with media and the world around you in general.
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Wischiwaschbaer 20 hr ago +17
To be honest. I completely forgot what happened at the end of that movie. What does that say about me?
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MappleStarsSky 18 hr ago +11
You' re just a normal dude probably lol.
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DeeDee_GigaDooDoo 11 hr ago +2
Fascinating.
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BB-Zwei 21 hr ago +11
Why the ending specifically?
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Revervivre 22 hr ago +41
Agreed. And I would say the same about how someone feels about Skylar in Breaking Bad.
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Stellaaahhhh 19 hr ago +14
And Carol on Pluribus, Carol on DTF St. Louis, Betty on Madmen, basically any female character who is nuanced and has a point of view.
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Wischiwaschbaer 19 hr ago +9
The problem with Betty was mainly that January Jones is a horrible actor. You couldn't take her seriously.  Carol is probably my favourite character of last year. Rhea Seehorn better get an Emmy for that one.
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Rattivarius 18 hr ago +19
They both annoyed me. Him fruitlessly pursuing his manic pixie dream girl, her knowing full well how he felt about her but dragging it out for her own benefit.
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MappleStarsSky 18 hr ago +8
I think that' s an understandable take, honestly! I did read her more as someone who was trying to make it work for his own sake too, but then decided that it just wouldn' t work, more than leading him on.
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Sparrowsabre7 12 hr ago +5
Which part? Do you mean the actual very end where he meets Autumn or how thebrelationship ends? Personally I felt the Autumn part was very much indicating that JGL was doomed to repeat this cycle he'd gone through. I've seen some who think it means he "finally met the one" though which baffles me.
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kalel51 21 hr ago +47
Anything Kardashian. I can't watch that trash and don't know why people just drool all over it. If you love these, We just aren't getting along.
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paperplus 20 hr ago +15
Biggest "anchor" of my old friend group watched it and it made so much sense why she was a fan. She was definitely one to quote that it takes a village but when the village was gone, an iPad raised her kids. Pseudo spiritual person listening to Instagram psychics and all that. Cheater and definitely a mean girl in high school. Best friend with my ex who fucked someone in the room next to me and claimed it was okay because we were "pretty much broken up". So happy to escape that toxic group. F*** Orlando and F*** Florida.
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DAN991199 18 hr ago +27
Yellowstone, landman, tracker, marshals all stupid shows for people with hero complexes
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Chazkuangshi 20 hr ago +47
Malcolm in the Middle or King of the Hill - specifically, if they call either Lois or Peggy a b****.
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yankthedoodledandy 19 hr ago +25
When I was a kid I hated how much Lois yelled. Rewatching as a parent now, I get it.
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LetMeOverThinkThat 16 hr ago +8
I LOVE Lois. I don't often disagree with her. I don't think Peggy is a b****, but she certainly gets on my nerves at times. Like when she had that fit over Bobby learning how to cook and being better at it than her. She's a bit draining, but she's a good person.
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geek_of_nature 16 hr ago +13
And for a other Bryan Cranston show, people who call Skylar a b****.
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crowtheory 15 hr ago +7
Is Peggy archetyped as a b****? I always thought she was seen as a sort of clueless dope(? Maybe too strong a word) who likens herself as a genius, but that it’s always endearing
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Earl_E_Byrd 14 hr ago +5
She is incredibly selfish and conceited many times. She can also be bigoted and prejudiced, which is kind of the general Hill family issue (besides Bobby.) And just like any sitcom character, a lot of her storylines involve her getting out of a problem that she brought upon herself. But that being said, I think she's also well-balanced with plenty of instances where she steps up to support others and correct her mistakes. Because at her core, Peggy believes herself to be a good person. Which means she's usually willing to do whatever it takes to see "the right thing" prevail. 
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Nazzul 21 hr ago +33
Everything Everywhere All at Once. I don't hold it against anyone who hates it, I just know we can't be friends.
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CypripediumGuttatum 19 hr ago +15
Me and my husband were in tears over the hot dog fingers. I know it got good reviews but I didn't expect it to be so funny and have a good whacky plot too.
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PunAboutBeingTrans 13 hr ago +10
oh thank god I thought you had a problem with people that loved it. I'll put down my sword
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MyPigWaddles 18 hr ago +6
My own brother said, "Yeah, it was a bit of fun." That hurt my heart.
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Nazzul 18 hr ago +5
My condolences.
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SheilaFudge 21 hr ago +36
Anyone obsessed with trash reality TV can honestly take a hike.
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mamrieatepainttt 22 hr ago +33
Also I mean girls got tons of hate at the time and even still does. Its still an incredibly well written comedy/drama. Its super problematic and so is Lena. I would never want anyone to think i admired Hannah or rly any main character. Its one thing to relate to parts of it but its another thing to think thats a good thing.
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TheWor1dsFinest 21 hr ago +17
Yeah it’s a good show at what it is. It’s just very clear to me that the characters are intended to be deeply flawed at best, completely morally reprehensible at worst. No one is perfect and it’s totally normal to relate to some of what they do or are going thru, but I’m talking about people who celebrate that behavior with no critical eye.
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StuffonBookshelfs 20 hr ago +7
Yeah. You can’t celebrate any of them (except maybe shosh, sometimes)—but it’s written incredibly well.
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BihImFromChi78 20 hr ago +13
Gen Xer and I loved (most of) the show. Precisely because the main characters were so messy and deeply flawed, and some of their fumbles reminded me of stupid, self-absorbed shit that I did in my 20s. Not my best era 🤷‍♀️ Lena remains problematic for me, but IMO the show was lightning in a bottle.
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PunAboutBeingTrans 13 hr ago +2
I tried watching it and I just can't get over how much I hate every second that Lena in on the screen. Like damn she's just the least sympathetic character ever, and isn't interesting enough to make you watch beyond that. Why would you watch something from Lena Dunham when Phoebe Waller-Bridge exists and makes nothing but absolute bangers.
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enemymime 22 hr ago +48
Anything on Fox News.
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TintarellaDiLuna 21 hr ago +18
Anyone who absolutely shits on a tv show because they don’t like the genre. They can’t just say they don’t like medical dramas, they have to say The Pitt is shitty tv. They can’t say gay sex makes them feel icky because, to them, that makes Heated Rivalry an appalling show to watch. Sometimes they’ll blame the superfans, even when the majority of a show’s viewers aren’t a part of the problematic side of the fanbase. It’s so common for people to have a knee-jerk reaction to judge someone’s character for the shows they watch, but from my experience, it really doesn’t say a whole lot. Some of the most intelligent, kindest people I know watch trash reality tv, gory horror, and mind-numbing sitcoms. Some of the shittiest people I know watch Bake Off and Bluey. I’d rather hang out with someone who regularly binges Real Housewives than a person who whips out their shitty soap box to word vomit about *those people* every time reality tv comes up in conversation.
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idontwantanamern 19 hr ago +6
Whenever someone blanket hates on reality TV, I ask if they enjoy documentaries.  If they say yes, and since so many streamers have turned documentaries into docu-series now, I tell them that they do - in fact - watch & enjoy reality TV.  It might not look the same way they categorize it, but it's still reality documented in media and edited to tell a story. And I agree with you about it not saying a lot. People use TV as a coping mechanism and sometimes the things we end up liking can be a mindless comfort blanket (and sometimes those turn into investments). I've also had shows that friends have turned to when they're in a tough spot and needed something completely ridiculous, but then wanted someone to talk to about. I've watched some stupid shows from that, but strengthened some friendships through them too. I'd be pissed if someone judged me without the context.
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runner64 18 hr ago +7
Documentaries note an interesting thing that happened. Reality TV tries to create interesting things by needlessly causing drama on purpose. Failing that they will use deceptive editing to make it appear that something happened when it didn't. And then they realize that there wasn't enough material to create 22 minutes of interesting video, so they will repeat the same clips over and over and over again, hyping the non-issue that may or may not have even occurred. I don't know what the streamers are up to, but traditionally, documentaries don't do that.
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AgentOfSPYRAL 20 hr ago +17
I had two friends in high school/early college who were big into Gilmore girls and were “best friends with their moms” and also made awful choices with dudes, emotionally destroying a couple, but generally not acknowledging any responsibility for it. I didn’t watch the show until many years after knowing them, made a lot of sense.
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GuybrushThreepwood99 22 hr ago +31
I feel like the show Entourage appealed to a certain type of demographic, and I have almost never liked someone who has enjoyed that show.
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Westeros 22 hr ago +6
I can’t think of a single millennial dude circa high school or college that wasn’t obsessed with Entourage, myself included lol. Basically made me go to school to become a talent agent lol. Vinny and Ari were my f****** idols haha
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ThrowingChicken 20 hr ago +5
It feels like everyone was really into the show, especially here on Listnook. I remember this place going nuts when the movie trailer dropped. But something shifted right before it came out, and all enthusiasm basically came to a halt.
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travelstuff 16 hr ago +2
Don't you hate when they ruin it with their reply
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ThrowingChicken 16 hr ago +3
I’m trying to pretend they didn’t go there.
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Logical-Safe2033 14 hr ago +5
Not a show, but "Disney adults" always tend to be a bit unhinged. And I say this as an animation lover.
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_MuffinBot_ 13 hr ago +4
If they hate True Detective S1, we might still get along, but I will never take their opinion on any kind of art seriously. I've never met anyone who does though, which is a testament to the quality of the show ofc.
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Letho_of_Gulet 12 hr ago +3
> I've never met anyone who does though, which is a testament to the quality of the show ofc I actually think the best stuff is stuff that has very vocal detractors too. If nobody dislikes it, that typically means it was watered down to be appealing to everyone instead of committing to a specific vision. True Detective S1 *is* great though so f*** the haters!
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PJSeeds 18 hr ago +12
My ex and all of her friends were obsessed with Girls when it was on. One of them drunkenly told me any man who didn't like it must be a "toxic misogynist." Your theory tracks, they were all huge pieces of shit.
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sphynxfur 16 hr ago +10
If you don't like I Think You Should Leave, my response is right there in the name of the show
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NewsOdd3064 18 hr ago +6
Not liking early Simpsons
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Sparrowsabre7 12 hr ago +2
For sure. Though it's perfectly cromulent to dislike later seasons.
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CaptainPhilosophy 21 hr ago +10
A si gle show isn't usually enough for me, but if someone writes off a whole section of media ("oh I don't watch animation it's for kids etc etc") that's when I have problems. I has a friend in college which didn't like fiction in general. I still don't understand her.
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Prestigious_Chart365 17 hr ago +3
A lot of guys seemed to model themselves on Hank Moody from Californication and it was pretty dire during that era 😝 
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SuperSailorRikku 17 hr ago +3
I haven't really noticed anything in particular - even people who like comedies I don't or have different senses of humor, I can usually find common ground with still. I suppose I'm not talking about people who are obsessed with something or about people in a dating context, though. All I can say is that I've never been close friends with anyone who is super into reality TV (stuff like the Kardashians, and... I can't think of any other examples lmao).
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Gyshall669 22 hr ago +22
Ted Lasso. Yall are too optimistic for me
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hurryupppp 22 hr ago +8
I love people to enjoy their own things so I wouldn’t say anything outloud but if you’re talking about how someone is cheating on someone in a reality show (Married at First Sight etc), we aren’t going to have anything in common. Conversely if someone says they love Simpsons seasons 1-10, I know we’re going to get on just fine.
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zkbthrowaway 17 hr ago +3
Hahahahahahahah I am both of those categories. I don't know how to feel
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Usurper213 17 hr ago +14
Anyone who tells me they watch Euphoria willingly and enjoy it I just don’t trust. The show is glorified gooner slop at this point and anyone who is not creeped out even the slightest by Sam Levinson is also a huge red flag cause something is wrong with that guy.
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O_J_Shrimpson 13 hr ago +5
The first season was a new better produced take on “edgy teen drama” but not much more. Season 2 was hit or miss. The strange drug dealer plot was lame, the play was an interesting idea executed oddly at best, with Zendaya making the whole season worth a watch in that episode where she flies off the handle with her mom. Haven’t really cared to watch season 3.
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PunAboutBeingTrans 13 hr ago +5
oh cmon be fair. it's just a soap opera with good camera work and fashion. Let me enjoy my guilty pleasure trash TV show 😆
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Cool_Cry_9602 16 hr ago +7
Entourage would be a massive red flag lol
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AnotherSoulessGinger 22 hr ago +19
People that think they were dead the entire time on LOST.
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mamrieatepainttt 22 hr ago +5
That is was purgatory the entire time. I didn't even watch it and I know that was only the small part in the end of the series. In some kind of flash forward sequence.
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cylonrobot 20 hr ago +5
Reality TV Wrestling
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purpleeliz 22 hr ago +11
I've met 2 people who refuse to give Bojack Horseman a try. I'm still friends with them but I don't take any of their media suggestions seriously.
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ChaoticCherryblossom 21 hr ago +34
I don't want depression thx
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purpleeliz 21 hr ago +6
They weren’t interested because cartoons
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Massive_Weiner 21 hr ago +15
If *that* was the line, then there’s nothing you can do in that situation. Just shrug and know that they missed out.
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Wischiwaschbaer 19 hr ago +4
They said BoJack Horseman, not Neon Genesis Evangelion.
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Acceptable_One6441 20 hr ago +6
This is my teen daughters favorite show. It was the weirdest show I have ever seen. I really tried for her.. I just couldn't 😂
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Wischiwaschbaer 19 hr ago +5
Your mental health must be amazing. How do you do it?
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travelstuff 15 hr ago +3
Eh I think this show is one that should come with a big grain of salt. The pilot isnt great, it takes until the episode Diane and Bojack go to (iirc) Hanks place (his former friend who has cancer) to really show what it can do. But the person saying they don't want depression isn't wrong. I think you need to have been depressed a bit to really want to watch it. Had a family member who really tried multiple times but just couldn't, I think because they are just a bit more optimistic I'm still annoyed it ended. There was no reason to limit it, Netflix were just c****
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SuperSailorRikku 17 hr ago +4
I think I watched the first episode and dropped it. I don't like the animation style. I also don't generally don't like shows with really unlikable characters (especially protagonists) - it's not a hard and fast rule, there are some exceptions but it really depends on the tone. I wouldn't judge someone for liking or not liking it either way, comedy and especially dark/black comedies are very subjective. anyway, i'd personally not dismiss someone's media suggestions based on them not liking a single show; i'd base it more on whether or not that person is good at reading other people and making tailored suggestions vs. going "i liked it and therefore the world should."
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doesnthavearedditacc 17 hr ago +4
Harry potter
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knightress_oxhide 17 hr ago +2
the point of a tv show is to be like an ekg, up and down. literally all sitcoms from the 70s to the 2010s
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percyinthestyx 14 hr ago +2
I can understand a lot of criticisms about Hazbin Hotel, but the people who are really passionately anti-Helluva Boss all seem to be really weird about domestic abuse.
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beattygotgame 13 hr ago +2
If someone says Breaking Bad/The Sopranos is “the greatest show of all time” but hasn’t seen The Wire.
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Mooseymax 11 hr ago +2
Any watcher of one piece is a friend of mine
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Jidarious 21 hr ago +8
Nothing. Having strong opinions about media and thinking it means something is the most basic b**** Internet thing that exists.
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imVeryPregnant 18 hr ago +5
“The Office (US) is the best show ever made”
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Pachirisu_Party 22 hr ago +8
People that love The Walking Dead because it's "basically their life". It's like, how is that similar to your life??
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Unumbotte 22 hr ago +29
Maybe they just like biting people.
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TacoCalzone 21 hr ago +21
Who tf are you hanging out with?
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SeerPumpkin 17 hr ago +4
Don't kink shame
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CLouiseK 19 hr ago +2
I’m old - XFiles.
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Emilytea14 18 hr ago +6
... for, or against? Lol
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LowBalance4404 21 hr ago +6
There is no tv show that would tell me whether or not I like someone. That is beyond superficial.
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BearWrangler 15 hr ago +2
This goes double if they actually happen to be a Star Wars fan in general, but I think anyone that did not find a single thing that resonated with them while watching Andor feels like a red flag, lol.
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