Terra Nova was a very cool concept. Really enjoyed the first few episodes and iirc it forked down the bland teen drama road :/
916
0ttoChriekApr 12, 2026
+260
I'd say the same for Revolution, the post-apocalyptic show that came out around the same time.
Really good idea, but the writing and casting was just so bad, particularly the lead actress who seemed like she should be on a soap. Eventually the writing descended into her being involved in love triangles with square-jawed, bland boys.
260
mileseverettApr 12, 2026
+55
These two shows are the two that instantly popped into my head when I saw this thread
55
Harold3456Apr 12, 2026
+29
Revolution and Under the Dome coming out in the same season was what turned me against cable tv shows completely.
At the same time that the Walking Dead and (only 1-2 years later IIRC) Game of Thrones were making incredible adaptations, we got Revolution looking like a c**** YA show and Under the Dome - an adaptation of a book I love - going immediately off the rails into idiocy. I remember complaining about it on a forum at the time and having someone say “what do you expect? You’re comparing cable to HBO and AMC.” and after that I never bothered with another basic cable show.
I know this was a post about Revolution but the line “yeah, grind that Dome!” From UtD when the skater kids are bouncing off the dome with their skateboard haunts me.
29
Underwater_KarmaApr 12, 2026
+27
Under the Dome should have been a miniseries, not 3 seasons and 40 episodes. Even the book totally ran out of momentum by the end.
The story was always about how people react in the premise, it's basically "Lord of the Flies", the Dome was a MacGuffin. It just went on way way too long
27
SweetLlamaMythApr 12, 2026
+17
Revolution was broadcast TV show, not cable, FWIW: it aired on NBC.
17
dizzi800Apr 12, 2026
+109
The pitch was basically:
"Big Budget, Time Travel. Dinosaurs. Steven Spielberg"
And somehow they turned it into the most boring by-the-book police procedural - with very minor B-plots that hinted at a better show
109
VeryAttractiveApr 12, 2026
+29
This exactly. I remember being completely sick of cop procedural, case-of-the-week network shows that saturated TV at the time. Terra Nova seemed like such a breath of fresh air
Then I watched as the main character took on a sheriff role and starting solving the most minor of crimes within the compound. A new boring mystery every week. The dinosaurs became the B-plot that progressed at a snail’s pace. Such a waste.
29
RatFacedBoyApr 12, 2026
+29
I had high hopes for Terra Nova. It had one of the highest budgets on tv and lost ratings because it turned into a family melodrama. Waste of a great idea.
29
Howling_Mad_ManApr 12, 2026
+71
Similar waste from the same era: Almost Human. Cyberpunk buddy cop show made boring.
71
Koppite93Apr 12, 2026
+22
Alcatraz was another one around then that disappeared after a season
22
SituationSoapApr 12, 2026
+16
I wouldn't say that Alcatraz was wasted potential as much as it seemed like they had one really big mystery hook and were going to have no idea how to solve it, so they just got dumpstered.
16
AWildEnglishmanApr 12, 2026
+7
> seemed like they had one really big mystery hook
It was a JJ Abrams mystery box classic.
7
SituationSoapApr 12, 2026
+7
Yep, exactly that. I remember really liking the pilot and then feeling like it dove off a cliff because there was no juice after that.
7
kremlingrassoApr 12, 2026
+16
I think almost humans was just right, I would never call it boring. Great cast, not too ambitious in world building or effects to keep it reasonable budget-wise, not preachy one way or other regarding technology.
16
kazh_9742Apr 12, 2026
+12
The two leads were great together and they even had Lili Taylor as the captain. Airing episodes out of order was a crime.
12
Dysan27Apr 12, 2026
+8
Yup. And sadly we never found out what was up with "The Wall"
8
KrovvenApr 12, 2026
+15
Random info: that little girl in Terra Nova is Koby in One Piece.
15
TromovationApr 12, 2026
+887
Heroes
887
AVerifiedPigApr 12, 2026
+171
Forgot about this, such a great example of a first season that was “wow” and then just lost momentum.
171
Suitable-Many-8517Apr 12, 2026
+45
It would have been ten times better as an anthology of different "cells" of heroes interacting around the same time in different seasons, but Milo Ventimigla and Hayden Penettiere became household names briefly and the studio wanted to capitalize on it. That's why those Mexican cousins were randomly there in season 2 and everything seemed absurd to happen to the same group of people.
45
OlelanderApr 12, 2026
+81
There was a massive writers strike after completion of the first season that IIRC did significant damage to the momentum and I believe the show possibly did not end up with the same writers afterwards.
81
americangameApr 12, 2026
+47
The writer's strike happened in the middle of season 2. It doesn't excuse the first half of that season.
47
the_tanookiApr 12, 2026
+6
Exactly.
I always hear the writer strike blame, but the 2nd season was bad regardless. I'm not necessarily blaming the writers or show runners because I've heard they wanted an anthology with different characters each season, but the networks/producers wanted the original cast to return instead.
I showed my wife Season 1 because it's amazing. I refused to show her the rest because there's very few redeeming qualities after the 1st season.
6
aeroplane1979Apr 12, 2026
+50
I always felt like Heroes’ problem was that they didn’t know where to go with it. It started well, but got aimless quickly. That problem seems to hit a lot of TV series. I’d put The Walking Dead in that category as well.
50
deadbandit19Apr 12, 2026
+22
I thought it lost its way when the very rare hero turned out to be every other person alive having powers
22
TheZephyrusOneApr 12, 2026
+22
Nerfering Peter so hard cause they didn't know what to do with him.
22
xvoyApr 12, 2026
+40
The studio meddling killed the concept for this series. It was intended to be an anthology where different seasons followed different characters and storylines. That’s why S1 was pretty decently wrapped up story wise. S2 being a “oh shit all the season 1 characters are super popular so we can’t ditch them” combined with a significant writers strike killed the show.
40
PNWCoug42Apr 12, 2026
+21
Heroes went all in "Save the cheerleader, save the world" and then had no idea what do after they saved the cheerleader. Didn't help that Hiro, Peter, and Sylar were f****** broken as super-powered individuals and they had to keep finding ways to sideline them.
21
Joker03XXApr 12, 2026
+549
Altered carbon. First season was f****** awesome and built a great world and characters. Second season switched actors for the main character and then fizzled out. I don’t blame Anthony Mackie though, the story just wasn’t there and I already liked Joel too much.
549
onarainyafternoonApr 12, 2026
+156
Mackie was so bad in the show though. He's normally a very competent actor but for some reason, he was just awful in this show.
156
runningdeuceApr 12, 2026
+75
Anthony Mackie came off too nice. You needed an actor that came off like a d***. Joel Kinnaman did a fantastic job being a d***.
75
tape_deck__heartApr 12, 2026
+88
When it comes to charisma, Anthony Lackie
88
GloryHol3Apr 12, 2026
+23
What's weird is that I feel the _actor_ actually does have Charisma. He has some hilarious interviews, he can command the room, but then for some important acting roles he is just so flat and boring. And it's not small roles, Altered Carbon as the lead, but perhaps the biggest one is Captain America.
23
DrexlSpivey420Apr 12, 2026
+24
Someone has not seen twisted metal
24
Recent-Layer-8670Apr 12, 2026
+19
Anthony Mackie is one of those actors who truly shine when he has a strong script and a good cast to work with. The best moments of Falcon and Winter Soldier are the interactions between Sam, Bucky, and Zemo. The plot was the weakest part, which is why his portrayal as Captain America wasn't as strong.
19
SteridireApr 12, 2026
+49
He doesn't have the leading man shine unfortunately. He's good as part of an ensemble cast but he doesn't have the gravitas to be your #1
49
KnotSoSaltyApr 12, 2026
+36
They F’d with the book too much, and just about every change was for the worse. The exception being Poe is a good idea instead of Hendricks, if you can’t get the rights.
In the show the Envoys are some sort of freedom fighters, Tak’s sister is a major character, Tak has to kill his own father to save his sister.
In the book the Envoys are the secret police, Tak has no significant family attachments, and his father abandons his family.
Basically book Tak is an ex-gangster, ex-super soldier, he’s discharged from the military because he’s the last survivor of a terrible battle. Basically he’s Rambo. The show character is a Luke Skywalker knockoff.
36
Acrobatic_Foot9374Apr 12, 2026
+37
They also tried to go more PG on the second season which made the story seem way different from the first one
37
StablebrewApr 12, 2026
+38
switching bodies is the core element of AC.
But can not deny, Netflix messed it up with terrible writings, lame story line, boring acting, and cut time and budget.
S1 can be watched, and is a finshed story without open end's.
S2 can be skipped without regrets.
38
WalawaccaApr 12, 2026
+18
I get that switching bodies is part of the books but they are such different actors and didn't carry the same attitude. It shouldn't have felt like a different person, just looked like one.
18
StablebrewApr 12, 2026
+14
Yeah, Mackie did not portrayed Kovacs from S1, and that felt disconnected.
14
iamacannibalApr 12, 2026
+333
Limitless.
It was a sequel/spinoff to the movie with the same name.
It started kind of just okay. Nothing special. It got canceled in the middle of the first season but they aired the rest of the season…and it got so good. It was a great show by the end of the season but there was no more of it.
Also Dirk Gently. The first season was weird and fun. The second season ramped up the weird too much….also doesn’t help that the creator is a shitty sex pest.
333
kickin-chickenApr 12, 2026
+88
F****** loved limitless. We’ve had plenty of shows with savant detectives but having the savant have a smart switch was great. The backstory to that switch was a nice extra arc to the other plots. Really liked the actors/main characters they were fun and kept it interesting.
Think in the end I just wanted my own supply of NZT to solve mine and the world’s problems.
88
CelestialShitehawkApr 12, 2026
+7
What I really liked about Limitless was how the protagonist of the movie became the antagonist of the TV series.
7
what_dat_ninjaApr 12, 2026
+158
Better Off Ted should have lasted much longer.
158
NightmaruApr 12, 2026
+27
100%. Could've been a more fantastical Arrested Development.
27
ScorpionX-123Apr 12, 2026
+72
Reaper got fucked by the writers' strike and never recovered
72
Massive_Percentage_6Apr 13, 2026
+9
God Reaper was so good, and Ray Wise was SUCH a good devil.
9
Wolfram_And_HartApr 13, 2026
+6
I’ve had a thing for Missy Peregrym forever, and the rest of cast is fantastic. But, Tyler Labine stole the show and I was so happy to see him in Dale and Tucker.
6
yeahhhhhboiiiApr 12, 2026
+190
The Mick
Edit - I meant this in that it was so good, it should’ve gotten another 5 seasons instead of being abruptly cancelled after two. So—wasted potential, but not because of the show derailing or anything
190
Shhhhhhhh_Im_At_WorkApr 12, 2026
+63
It was one of the funniest shows on TV.
63
byebybuyApr 12, 2026
+27
Hard agree. I went into it thinking "oh it's a Sweet Dee spinoff" but was really charmed by the whole cast and concept. Laughed hard.
27
Shhhhhhhh_Im_At_WorkApr 12, 2026
+29
For me it was Jimmy and Rosa that sold it. They were absolute lunatics.
29
HerbdontanaApr 12, 2026
+12
I was looking for this before I commented. I totally agree. I don’t like a lot of the network comedy shows, but I loved the Mick. It should’ve gotten many more seasons and definitely should not have ended on a cliffhanger. To me It’s easily the best show that any of the cast members of always sunny have done outside of sunny
12
DiamondBurInTheRoughApr 12, 2026
+174
I’m pretty sure the writers of Manifest had no idea what to do beyond the first season because that show became absolute slop as time went on despite such a unique and captivating premise.
174
UsernameChallengedApr 12, 2026
+52
How I feel about designated survivor.
Had a "cool" premise (if you ignore the hundreds of people that died). But just didn't keep me interested as the season went on.
52
I_am_beast55Apr 12, 2026
+20
I think designated survivor should've had the country go into more turmoil, with it being harder for the government to get back to a working order.
20
dkrtzyrrrApr 13, 2026
+7
this was a LOT of the shows trying to be the next lost - they could have a good hook but it became pretty clearly pretty quickly there was no real plan. lost was able to hide it a lot longer. you don't need to have a firm blueprint you stick to - this was himym's trap - but having a framework you can work w/ and some beats you know you want to hit but something fluid enough you can adapt on the fly works well - this is what breaking bad did. they had a pretty good idea of what they wanted to do and where they wanted to go but the specific mechanics were worked out as needed.
7
gregorenkoApr 12, 2026
+172
The man in the high castle.
Could’ve been SO much better.
172
TheTamiamiButcherApr 12, 2026
+47
I watched like 2 seasons - couldn't bare to do the 3rd. Such an interesting idea and such poor delivery. Truly waste of resources.
47
yar2000Apr 12, 2026
+41
I think its not too popular of an opinion but I actually really liked (parts of) this show. There were some weak parts, sure, but some of the storylines were very strong IMO.
41
byfuryattheheartApr 12, 2026
+22
Obergruppenführer Smith storyline basically saved the show from being completely unwatchable. That part of the show was excellent. Everything else was meh at best and the finale was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen lol
22
MonkeyBoatRentalsApr 12, 2026
+20
Smith and Tagomi were the best parts of the show, revealing how the fascists were as trapped by their regimes as the people they were subjugating. Unfortunately it became hard to care about Juliana and the resistance.
20
edgeplotApr 12, 2026
+7
Started off strong but went steadily downhill in later seasons.
7
ben-hur-hurApr 12, 2026
+7
That show died for me after they got rid of Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa
7
RefurbedRhinoApr 12, 2026
+47
Mindhunter.
It was gettng better and better.
47
AVerifiedPigApr 12, 2026
+272
Terriers. Canceled too soon.
Santa Clarita Diet. I wanted more too.
Dexter: Original Sin. Fantastic cast, got me hooked, cancelled.
Go On. Super funny comedy with Matthew Perry that could have had many more seasons.
272
TheTamiamiButcherApr 12, 2026
+43
Yea, Dexter Original Sin was amazing. Very bad decision to cancel it like that...but, whatever. They attempt to allocate more resources to Dexter Resurrection which I certainly can understand but regardless it's a bad management decision. Both seasons were over-hyped, it shouldn't have been a competition.
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NoNefariousness2144Apr 12, 2026
+18
It's an even bigger shame considering Original Sin could have easily been wrapped up with just one more season.
18
IWasOnThe18thHoleApr 12, 2026
+14
Even worse, Paramount could've made bank by alternating between Original Sin and Resurrection every 6 months
14
rnhfApr 12, 2026
+22
Oh if we're talking cancelled... Counterpart
high quality, high concept, delivered from start to finish, but seemed to never find enough of an audience, partly due to poor marketing
22
flow_fighterApr 12, 2026
+99
Santa Clarita Diet is such a deep cut,
My family LOVED that show, and we were all crushed that we wouldn’t get more of those characters.
Olyphant was a great nervous-wreck in that show, and the kids added such a fun level of adventure
99
jcargile242Apr 12, 2026
+12
“What the fuckity-f***!?”
12
godnusApr 12, 2026
+6
Are you using soap on my iron skillet?!
6
roseh42Apr 12, 2026
+23
I totally forgot about Go On, but it was a good show!
23
pablo_the_bearApr 12, 2026
+27
Terriers was great, I'm glad you also watched it. It seems like it's a show that barely anyone knew about but everyone who watched it loved it.
27
TacoCalzoneApr 12, 2026
+7
Loved loved LOVED Terriers. At least it ended well
7
pie-ohApr 12, 2026
+28
Santa Clarita Diet is what convinced me to cancel my Netflix to be honest. It was a very good show but because it wasn't "top 3" it was cancelled. It made me realize how joyless the executives at Netflix must be. It's all about eeking out the best margins for this quarter with no real care for the user base.
At least some movie studios you tend to think are run by people who care about media.
28
Successful-Ad4251Apr 12, 2026
+43
The Sarah Conner Chronicles. Right before they got canceled John & liquid metal T-1000, who was helping him, were sent into the future.
I’ll never get to enjoy how awesome a good T-1000 could be. She did waste a Terminator & save John and Sarah but there could have been so much more
43
whris_cilsonApr 12, 2026
+145
Flashforward
145
DavegoApr 12, 2026
+21
If you are interested in it this is actually based off a book. The book is OK and if you just want to know what it all was, you can read the book's [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashforward_\(novel\)).
21
Successful_Length_26Apr 12, 2026
+73
Sleepy Hollow from the 2010s, and my husband and I still talk about it. 😂 They blew through the most compelling story (priest who knows the headless horseman is coming! Headless horseman with pumpkin head!) entirely too quickly.
73
Afferbeck_Apr 12, 2026
+13
I liked that show but I don't remember much about the latter season or two. The leads had great chemistry and something that always stuck out to me was how they never tried to hide their height differences to make for more convenient or standard shots, Crane would be way up here and Abbie would be way down there and it looked so natural.
13
TheFakeBillPierceApr 12, 2026
+4
i had completely forgotten about this show, but you are spot on! I remember being absolutely hooked by the first season and then just dropping it out of sheer boredom at some point in the later seasons.
4
Hamza_Ali_Mazaari_Apr 12, 2026
+73
I think Prison break had one of the best season 1 ever totally addictive binge worthy but went downhill later
73
demonofthefallApr 12, 2026
+20
Because the story was one season. Whatever they did afterwards was out of pure greed
20
quack_quack_mofoApr 12, 2026
+9
I'll always have a soft spot for it, it was the first tv show i've ever watched from start to finish. It got me watching shows.
9
signe-hApr 12, 2026
+310
Witcher. It could have been a worthy successor to GoT with a Slavic flavour. But nah, the showrunner turned it into a generic American fantasy show with a generic Millennial Hollywood writing.
310
Cdog923Apr 12, 2026
+102
If only they'd listen to Cavill.
102
The_Jazz_DollApr 12, 2026
+34
So glad they gave Cavill control over the upcoming 40k series.
34
0ttoChriekApr 12, 2026
+45
The only episode of that show I thought was genuinely good was the pilot. Even the first season, which people praised, just dropped in quality until the finale was a garbled mess of witches doing 'purposeful walks' and inconsistent amounts of magic.
45
No-Badger-7377Apr 12, 2026
+408
Halo could have had a massive fanbase and gone on for several seasons if they stuck to the video game premise. All my Gen Z friends including girls like me played, it was a huge f****** game. But no, they had to go do their own thing. The people involved in the TV adaption should never work again. Yeah I'm bitter.
408
ScoffingYayapApr 12, 2026
+156
It's like the writers pitched a generic sci-fi show and then the studio slapped Halo on it. Everything was wrong.
156
ButtPlugForPMApr 12, 2026
+61
The showrunner had never played the game as well which really didn't help.
It was more season 1 was a show about that little asian girl and not halo.
not once apparantly it explains so much.
meanwhile christopher nolan has said halo is his favourite video game series and has been wanting to take a crack at it for years but MS has it behind a moat now after the paramount debacle
U literally just needed to do season 1..FALL OF REACH to show how BADARSE the covenant is and the dire straits humans are in
Season 2 Opens with chief landing on the halo... and go from there lol
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ScoffingYayapApr 12, 2026
+31
I always really liked those Neill Blamkamp shorts they used to make.
31
Heysoos_ChristoApr 12, 2026
+8
Omg those used to get me so f****** hyped for potential movies he could have made. Weren't there rumblings of a film or something from him or Spielberg or some big director that ultimately just fizzled out? Super huge bummer and years later we finally ended up with this hot steaming pile of garbage of a show. Holy shit was it terrible.
They absolutely should, and could, have used Steve Downes for Chief.
AND. DON'T. TAKE. OFF. THE. F******. HELMET.
8
DrkNeoApr 12, 2026
+42
That's actually the rumor.
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onarainyafternoonApr 12, 2026
+21
This is the rumor for tons of TV shows that turned out like shit. I don't know how much stock I'd put into it. Plus, while that sort of thing makes sense in other contexts, it really doesn't make sense for an enormous mega-franchise like Halo.
21
Acrobatic_Foot9374Apr 12, 2026
+12
That's how they do it. Writers have a shitty script they can't sell so they find a famous IP that is within the same genre and try to secure the rights, once they have that the studio pitch goes through because they're selling an "established franchise with millions of followers"
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grv231Apr 12, 2026
+58
Freaking master chief kept opening his visor every 2 mins. So pathetic 🤦🏻♂️
EDIT: I meant HELMET :D
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drfeelgood22785Apr 12, 2026
+15
*Master Cheeks
15
Upbeat_Tension_8077Apr 12, 2026
+138
Yellowjackets. I thought there could've been so much more out of Tai's >!politician-killer double life storyline!< & even adult Lottie and Van's stories pale in comparison to that of their younger counterparts. & I'll die on the hill that adult Natalie should've been recasted if her character was supposed to be so integral to the eventual endgame of the story.
One thing is that I'm still grateful that this show was my introduction to Sophie Thatcher's work (& I see her as one of the best rising names in horror today)
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+97
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theTribblyApr 12, 2026
+37
Once I finished the second season it became clear that five year plan was that random bullshit will happen in the present day to pad out the show for however many seasons they have, then halfway through the final season someone will say "We have to go back to the woods and end this once and for all!"
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+23
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Harold3456Apr 12, 2026
+13
Season 1 was great, too. IMO even the adult stuff was better than it had any right to be given I was only drawn to the show for the Lord of the Flies-esque cabin in the woods premise. But season 2 was so meandering and nonsensical that I totally stopped following.
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trainsawApr 12, 2026
+19
Juliette Lewis wanting out threw them for a loop but the issues were there well before
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[deleted]Apr 12, 2026
+25
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H2Oloo-SunsetApr 12, 2026
+29
First show I thought of.
Great concept. Excellent pilot. Strong first season, and then it just became a mess.
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AskinggAlesanaApr 12, 2026
+18
I wish Natalie’s character (Julliet Lewis) was recasted even sooner. She was honestly one of the worst parts of the adult timeline and her acting, especially towards the end was unbearable.
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quack_quack_mofoApr 12, 2026
+10
She's my favourite part of the woods timeline. And my least favourite in the adult timeline lol
10
theredcourtApr 12, 2026
+26
I should have read the comments, because I just said the same thing.
The modern timeline should have focused on Shauna's daughter trying to solve the mysteries instead of following the Scooby Doo hijinks of the bumbling adults. It would have allowed the writers to cultivate more mystery and been much eerier.
But they got famous actresses and felt they needed to justify that by cramming as much content as they could out of them, I guess.
Such a waste.
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Upbeat_Tension_8077Apr 12, 2026
+7
Aside from the potential of Shauna's story with her daughter, with Lottie as I briefly mentioned, I think there was a potential for a good story as a cult leader, but the execution of it in S2 definitely felt goofier than I hoped for, and it eventually went nowhere alongside the story of what happened to Travis.
Even adult Misty's storyline took a backseat, & I would've loved for her character to be a central figure around all the chaos happening in the modern-day story (especially if adult Lottie's subplot wasn't prominent or around)
7
hawksnest_prezApr 12, 2026
+10
I’ll never forgive them for the cabin burning down during the finale and then somehow the premiere they’ve all thrived during winter and built a new colony. F*** that - winter should’ve been brutal
10
Underwater_KarmaApr 12, 2026
+6
Yellowjackets tried to do two shows woven together, but the problem was they had one great show, and one terrible one nobody cared about.
The ironclad plot armor that was established in the first episodes took all the tension out of the survival story, without adding anything compelling.
6
taylorpilotApr 12, 2026
+36
Once upon a time had a shot at being a Disney version of fables but the writers gave up on fun concepts and became weird de facto ads for Disney movies.
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vaporgaze2006Apr 12, 2026
+86
Jericho
86
SmegmaWarrior0815Apr 12, 2026
+17
Man I loved that show. Canceling it was nuts by CBS.
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JayKay8787Apr 12, 2026
+10
They really could redo that show today with a new cast and same premise and it would be amazing. Shows like the walking dead, fallout, last of us, etc. all came later and prove audiences want post apocalyptic tv. Jericho was a great show that deserved alot more, and the concept of a small town banding together isolated after nuclear bombs drop creates the perfect amount of drama, tension, and mystery to make some great stories
10
KaneIntentApr 12, 2026
+13
I loved that show so much, such a mid 2000s classic. Shows like Jericho and Heroes had a certain atmosphere to them that you just don’t see anymore today. I’m surprised people can still remember much about them though considering they’re both turning 20 years old.
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vaporgaze2006Apr 12, 2026
+16
Jericho is one of the greatest 'What Ifs'. Loved that show.
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SuchFaithlessness335Apr 12, 2026
+5
Nuts!
5
Grahf88Apr 12, 2026
+134
If you gave competent writers Taylor Sheridans budgets you could have some beautifully shot well written westerns
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Upbeat_Tension_8077Apr 12, 2026
+38
This brings to mind that Taylor's work is probably best if his vision is filtered through collaborations with others (like Villeneuve on Sicario and David Mackenzie on Hell or High Water), even though he did have great early work that was made solo like Wind River. I'd wonder if a Sterlin Harjo or Graham Roland (of Dark Winds) series made in collaboration with Sheridan would be good
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CFBCoachGuyApr 12, 2026
+14
Also Sheridan has pretty much did every tv series without other writers, so there’s been no one to challenge him or rein him in. Although I guess counterpoint, he’s on a gigantic guaranteed contract, so why put in more than the minimum effort? People are going to watch it anyway
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Shhhhhhhh_Im_At_WorkApr 12, 2026
+6
I was a huge fan of his movies and even season 1 and 2 of Yellowstone but then it really jumped the shark. And as it did, it got more popular, and eventually he had Yellowstone branded beef jerky in every single gas station in America. Who am I to judge? The man has become the modern Buffalo Bill, selling imaginary Western mythos pulp to a hungry audience.
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Retireddevil0Apr 12, 2026
+27
Studio 60 and the sunset strip. Too down talented cast. Incredible writer even without cocaine.
27
YeahhhhbutApr 12, 2026
+7
But 30 Rock may not have survived. One of them had to go.
7
ElasticPlatypusApr 12, 2026
+73
The most recent Twilight Zone reboot. “Oh Jordan Peele is resurrecting short-form sci-fi/horror. I bet that’s a great arena to tell some original stories and wait what? They’re doing Nightmare at 20,000 feet AGAIN?!?”
73
agordon7Apr 12, 2026
+38
To me, I feel like Black Mirror is a spiritual successor to the Twilight Zone much more than the Peele reboot.
38
solarnoiseApr 12, 2026
+15
The Twilight Zone 1959 is my favorite show of all time. The 1985 and 2002 reboots felt like they had something to add and though the quality varies, the stories are fairly timeless. But the 2019 reboot already feels dated. The best Twilight Zone stories feel like commentaries on the events of their time, but while staying allegorical and poignant. Jordan Peele's version just feels lazy and the themes are punching you in the face without any nuance.
15
CFBCoachGuyApr 12, 2026
+7
Those were all terrible. Not only were the few original stories bad, the remakes were wildly worse than the originals. And it’s such a shame because they could’ve just replicated the Twilight Zone’s original strategy and developed short stories from contemporary scifi and horror writers.
7
MaimedJesterApr 12, 2026
+13
Yeah Love. Death. Robots has been the closest to scifi short story anthologies we've gotten, and even then it started to taper off in quality towards the end.
13
XX-BurnerApr 12, 2026
+49
The 100
49
wrosecransApr 12, 2026
+20
For something that was made as a CW love triangle perfect hair teen apocalypse show, I honestly think The 100 wildly exceeded expectations and did some genuinely interesting concepts, and the darkest horror sci fi you could put on a network like the CW.
20
akaneilaApr 12, 2026
+11
Idk the first three seasons were really great but yea goes downhill from there
11
NoNefariousness2144Apr 12, 2026
+9
I still liked season 4 and 5 as crazy apocolyptic plots.
But season 6 got too weird and season 7 was utterly awful and has soured my memories of the show.
9
untrusted_chairApr 12, 2026
+24
Revolution
24
haseoxthApr 12, 2026
+6
Scrolled too far for this one.
Amazing premise and then by season 2 is barely knew what it wanted to do and it was canceled.
6
707royaltyApr 12, 2026
+24
Alcatraz
Storylines were fun, had a ton more prisoners to explore, left us on a cliffhanger, acting was solid, SF setting always a banger. But they just let it go after one season...
24
TheraimbownerdApr 12, 2026
+24
Reaper. It ended with such a terrible cliffhanger too. A very good show with a lot of charm.
24
Master_Kief117Apr 12, 2026
+19
Carnivàle
19
The_WeeApr 12, 2026
+19
Kaos - was starting to get into it by the end of the season
The OA - didn’t find out about the second season until I heard it was being cancelled
Agree with Altered Carbon
19
blampkin14Apr 12, 2026
+38
Archive 81 anybody? Only 8 episodes and Netflix cancelled it. Great psychological horror.
38
canadiancarlinApr 12, 2026
+33
Awake.
A man has a wife and a son. After a terrible car accident, he loses his wife. He goes to sleep, and wakes up in a world where his wife is alive but his son died in an accident. He now lives in two worlds; he lives with his wife, goes to sleep, then wakes up and lives with his son. Fantastic premise, and they turned it into a sitcom cop procedural what the hell.
33
YoungvLondonApr 12, 2026
+8
This is the first that comes to mind for me. The pilot is gorgeously shot, and the premise is so intriguing.
There's maybe a miniseries you could cut from this - the pilot, the episode with the figment guy, and the finale - and it'd be better.
8
fhorst79Apr 12, 2026
+36
Seaquest. Basically Star Trek under water. Went down when they really found aliens.
36
Darkill34Apr 12, 2026
+184
Firefly, if we are talking about what could have been
Westworld (after s1), if we value what we got
184
GaryTheCabalGuyApr 12, 2026
+61
Westworld always gets brought up in these threads, but I enjoyed every season of that show. The various suggestions like "they should have just stayed in the parks" sound so much worse/more boring than what the show actually went with. The expanding scope of each season was a big part of the appeal to me
61
noahrbcApr 12, 2026
+14
Lodge 49 and Devs
14
RedditVawlApr 12, 2026
+9
2nd for Lodge 49, I loved that show. I’d love a revival
9
ThrowingChickenApr 12, 2026
+5
Why Devs? You didn’t like how it progressed or you didn’t like that it was only a miniseries?
5
ShaponjaApr 12, 2026
+62
1899. Why the f*** would you cancel a show made by the creators of Dark?
62
MI78Apr 12, 2026
+12
Riverdale season 1 was grounded and fun, then the writers smoked half a cake up while doing a heroine foot bath and drove that mf ship right off the edge of a cliff.
12
King_WatabaApr 12, 2026
+36
Dollhouse for me. It was a Josh Whedon show and had an excellent cast and premise. It could have been very interesting if not ruined by the network. They aired episodes out of order and generally just fucked around and killed it.
36
tvcneverdieApr 12, 2026
+26
Wasted because it got cancelled... But my answer for these questions is always **"Raised by Wolves"**
Probably the most ambitious thing on TV in decades, hell maybe ever. At times it was certifiably insane, teetering on nonsensical.
But it's the only thing in TV or film from the past few years that made me feel like I was watching something with true audacity and fearlessness to it.
26
evanskaufmanApr 12, 2026
+7
Seconded for Raised by Wolves. It was fantastically imaginative and absolutely off-the-wall and I loved it
7
LinflexibleApr 12, 2026
+11
Th Event.
11
Indevious1Apr 12, 2026
+12
Sense8, strange but great ideas going on in that show cancelled middle of build up.
12
Reasonable-HB678Apr 12, 2026
+11
Revenge, which had a knockout first season, learned the wrong lessons from Lost, and had a conspiracy-type storyline in the second season that made me lose interest. Ironically, the presumed dead father of the main character coming back was what led me to start watching the show in its final year.
11
MemeLord1337_Apr 12, 2026
+78
Rings of Power.
So so so much money invested and they gave it to inexperienced nepo baby show runners.
We could have had a genuine all-timer on our hands here. It will get all 5 seasons also it has been announced what a drag.
Most expensive television show in history also I think. I could be wrong here.
Production is beyond amateur. Scenes look like theatre sets. CGI looks not-worse than the 2000s films, but too obviously CGI? If that makes sense. The costume design is such a downgrade compared to the films. I know there are some fans of Bear McCreary and the score but I think it’s extremely forgettable.
78
kickin-chickenApr 12, 2026
+24
Jesus yes, what a complete nothing burger of a show. Like you have a huge completely devoted fan base with so so much lore material to work from but then completely ruin it.
24
gosukhaosApr 12, 2026
+15
They actually don't though which is part of the problem with the show.
They only have the rights for very small parts of the LoTR appendices which means they have to invent very large chunks of lore and backstory
Still its no excuse for how amateur hour everything looks
15
KimJongBenApr 12, 2026
+23
Every year I rewatch Freaks and Geeks and get pissed that we didn’t get more.
23
spencerleveyApr 12, 2026
+8
Powerless.
8
doom1701Apr 12, 2026
+9
Earth:Final Conflict tops this list for me. The story they were weaving in the first season was amazing. Then they started replacing or dropping cast, dumbing everything down, until Season 5 was not even recognizable.
9
MorridiniApr 12, 2026
+8
The Wheel of Time.
A fantasy show based on one of (imo) the best fantasy books ever written, with millions of fans world Wide, given to an absolutely incompetent showrunner who wants to change everything willy nilly and show no respect for the source material.
8
Flurb4Apr 12, 2026
+15
American Gods. Incredible first season then got derailed by behind the scenes bullshit.
15
theredcourtApr 12, 2026
+23
Yellowjackets.
Solid bones: Lord of the Flies but with the unique dynamic of teenage girls, and mysteries unraveling between two timelines. With a terrific cast.
It's hot garbage. They got famous actresses and felt they needed to justify that by writing contrived Scooby Doo shenanigan filler which eats up half the screen time.
Such a waste of potential.
23
Jabbles22Apr 12, 2026
+7
I watched the first two seasons. Started season 3 and lost interest almost right away. I'm all for a mystery but you got to get there at some point.
7
ItsChappyUTApr 12, 2026
+7
Jericho had the potential to be the next Lost and it just got terrible… but not worse than…
Revolution had an amazing premise and could’ve been ground breaking and atypical and it basically became a Hunger Games trope and just a mess of plot points trying to cater to everybody. The cast was amazing. So much wasted potential.
7
NickRickApr 12, 2026
+6
Stargate Universe. The first season was very slow, and had a little to much personal drama, but once it got going it was great.
Also Dark Matter (2015) was amazing, I can't believe it got cancelled but they let killjoys keep going instead
6
Tomhyde098Apr 12, 2026
+6
Silo for me. I think it’s a classic case of “the book is better than the show” because the show made insane choices that made the story worse.
6
reinkingApr 12, 2026
+7
Westworld - had so much potential to do different themed parks for a few seasons before trying to take it outside of the parks.
Firefly - A lot of potential for a multiple season run but Fox just Fox'ed it up.
Dollhouse - I wasn't the biggest fan of the series, but I wish they could have explored the epitaph episodes a little more.
Sarah Conner Chronicles - cancelled too soon.
7
HaikoudenApr 12, 2026
+24
Star Trek Voyager.
The premise is that you have a Starfleet ship suddenly sent way out into the other side of the galaxy, all alone, with some of its crew getting killed and needing to get supplemented with members of a (depending on perspective) freedom fighter/terrorist organisation.
They've got limited supplies, they don't know anything about the area they're in, they're decades away from home, and they've got political and ideological schisms between various crewmembers.
The show proceeds to do the following:
1 Almost immediately ignore that they've got limited supplies, outside of a handful of episodes where they need a part replaced. They mention that they only have a handful of photon torpedoes very early on and then use up dozens of them throughout the show, not to mention their shuttles that constantly get blown up and replaced.
2 Goes out of its way to not bother with changing or adapting the ship or its crew really at all beyond the first couple of episodes, and a very late addition. They get a couple of alien crewmembers at the start, and a Borg towards the end, but any aliens that want to join inevitably end up dying or being evil etc. And the ship itself never really changes despite years of needing to be repaired from battle damage and such, they just fix it up like new and it looks the same throughout (though that's probably down to budget constraints).
One of the crewmembers is also revealed to be >!a Cardassian spy (who would very much be at odds with the freedom fighters/terrorists and the Starfleet crew too) but they just make her a villain of the week that pops up from time to time. She has a couple of cool episodes but that's it. !<
3 They take cool concepts and squish them into single episodes or two parters. As an example there's the Season 5 episode "Night" where the ship enters a region that's essentially empty, there's nothing around for ages and ages, it's so empty that there isn't even any visible starlight.
Considering the premise of the show, having them be stranded there for several episodes or even a half or full season could have been amazing. The episode itself that we got was good, and the aliens that evolved in this empty space that they found were interesting, but it's kind of marred by being a perfect opportunity to do something really interesting, wasted.
4 Very little focus on the characters adapting or coping with their situation outside of when its plot relevant. This is a ship with a couple hundred people stranded years and years away from home, they don't even have the ability to contact home for most of it either. But very little is done to really explore this aside from with the captain.
5 The people from the freedom fighter/terrorist organisation are never an issue outside of a couple of episodes. There's never any real discussion or compromise needed, they're just told to act like Starfleet and then they do, or are evil.
6 It attempts to have to spiritual element to it with Chakotay (a character with Native American heritage), but it's written really badly, almost always feels forced, and so incredibly stereotypical in parts that it's kind of racist. This is probably because the cultural advisor they hired was an Italian guy who had spent his life making money off of pretending to be Native American (he'd been outed years before he was hired onto Voyager). Star Trek DS9 which started earlier did a significantly better job with the subject matter.
To conclude - the entire premise is a Starfleet crew and vessel facing the unknown and seeing what they needed to do to survive, and whether they keep their morals and integrity doing so. The execution was them mostly being fine, being mostly the same, and losing most of the new stuff they got before they even got home anyway.
Ironically the biggest changes that came to the crew and the ship were a result of >!a future Captain Janeway bringing advanced tech back to help them get home faster!<
24
Snuffleupagus03Apr 12, 2026
+19
The studio execs and show runners (?) made a commitment that any episode could stand alone. They wanted any viewer to be able to hop in and watch any episode. Like how you can with the original series or tng.
I’m sure syndication was a factor. That’s how tv made the big bucks back then. You want a random episode to be able to rerun at a random time on tbs and people will watch it.
This destroyed the premise. It ruined the show. It was a crazy decision to combine this with this premise. The individual episodes aren’t particularly watchable because they are still built on this amazing premise. But the show also isn’t rewatch able in order because the premise is never used.
19
HaikoudenApr 12, 2026
+7
Syndication was absolutely a factor for sure, DS9 almost had the same thing happen with how episodic it was but thankfully the writers focused a lot on the character writing so we still got development over the show - and with some things they basically tricked the showrunner and execs into letting them do longer arcs (such as with the dominion war).
ENT also a contender because so much of it was about the temporal cold war. Apparently that whole plotline was a studio exec or similar wanting it to be included, which like you said with Voyager destroyed the premise.
I do understand why they'd prioritise making money over making a more interesting show, but if they're gonna do that, don't use a premise that works terribly with what you've got planned for it.
7
[deleted]Apr 12, 2026
+7
AHS: Coven in particular but AHS in general. I would say AHS: Freak Show was just a stupid mess, but it was from the beginning. Coven could have been world class.
7
rougepenguinApr 12, 2026
+6
I don't care if I'm too late and this sits at the bottom, The Riches. Got killed by a writer's strike but I'd argue it did blow through too much of something that should have been a slower burn in the first season.
You had prime Suzy Izzard in a more serious role that worked well and Minnie Driver + a couple of great teens who'd go on to do other stuff *and* a freakishly before-its-time addition of the youngest being a sensitive, nuanced story about a kid dealing with gender identity issues. All wrapped up in the *dynamite* plot of a family of grifters trying to pose as the family of this lawyer dude they accidentally got killed in the fancy gated community he was moving to. "Stealing the American Dream." It was funny, it was dramatic, you wanted to root for the family, there was just enough mystery/crime thriller elements to make it really pop...there were the bones of something on par with Breaking Bad & The Wire.
Luckily, means you do have a pretty good self-contained first season.
6
KevinAitken1960Apr 12, 2026
+6
Designated Survivor. Great premise but bad, weak follow-up. The wife, played by Natascha McElhone, should have been revealed as having been involved in a conspiracy to get her husband to the White House.
6
TheBuddManApr 12, 2026
+7
Under the Dome!
7
RxR8D_Apr 12, 2026
+16
Wheel of Time
House of the Dragon (granted it’s basing a series on a few hundred page blurb in a book)
16
statikyApr 12, 2026
+19
Space force. Man, what a charismatic cast that was given a god awful script and forgot how to act. The show started coming together in the second season, but with that star power, it reallt shouldn't have been so tough to watch.
19
KennyShowersApr 12, 2026
+10
Boardwalk Empire. I think it has the best cast in TV history (excluding shows with one-off cameos/guest appearances), the production value and set design is perfect, had lots of creators from The Sopranos, Scorsese directed the pilot, and overall I think it’s a good show but it never comes close to exceeding the sum of its parts.
It’s just all so surface-level, never leaves you thinking or reexamining anything, just nuts and bolts gangster machinations, and as much as I enjoy that stuff it doesn’t live up to the promise of its excellent individual parts.
10
AVerifiedPigApr 12, 2026
+12
I thought it was pretty great from beginning to end but hey, opinions.
12
No_Development3496Apr 12, 2026
+7
I think it is deep but unlike say shows like mad men or sopranos who show us more of a explicit psychology
Boardwalk hides that psychology and philosophy
7
Harold3456Apr 12, 2026
+5
I loved the first 3 seasons, wouldn’t call them shallow at all. Especially the way historical characters like Lucky, Meyer, Al Capone and Rothstein were fleshed out, but also even Nucky himself. Plus fictional additions like Jimmy and Richard, with Richard in particular being an excellent character who was given more trauma/emotional scenes than action scenes despite also being a fan/favourite Terminator of a character.
The show fell apart in season 5, but that was due to being forced to wrap up. After each season starting in a new year for the first 4, season 5 suddenly skips like 5 years to get itself to the endpoint it clearly wanted to reach (Lucky starting the Commission), and as a result killed off some major characters offscreen to be faithful to history. But also I think it made some general unforced writing fumbles this season, too. Particularly, its obsession with >!killing off every single fictional character.!< It ultimately just made for a joyless ending and a viewing experience I have never had a desire to repeat, even though I’ve rewatched several scenes in isolation.
5
ABC_Dildos_IncApr 12, 2026
+10
Flashforward.
It started out like Lost, but with a blueprint for the mythology.
The way it played out in the single season felt like it was drowned by never ending studio notes.
10
AskinggAlesanaApr 12, 2026
+11
Inside Job… so good.. all wasted because of shitty Netflix.
11
Awkward_Singer_5Apr 12, 2026
+6
The Quantum Leap reboot.
It somehow managed to lose all the charm of the original series, something they desperately needed to strive for in the absence of Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell.
6
alexistexas2006Apr 12, 2026
+5
Pretty Little Liars. They had books to follow, but made it worse by having reveals that lead to nothing and presented a final boss introduced by the end.
5
yar2000Apr 12, 2026
+4
Colony. Nobody ever seems to talk about it anymore. Still mad it got cancelled.
4
R_V_ZApr 12, 2026
+5
Defiance is an interesting contender because the original goal was to have an MMO that would tie in with the show. Actions in the show would affect the game; actions in the game would affect the show.
5
jc95819Apr 12, 2026
+5
The newsroom
5
VeryLowIQIndividualApr 12, 2026
+5
The Walking Dead. Fantastic pilot and just about down hill from there for what seemed like 20 years. 2-3 meaty episodes per season and the rest where filler with people walking around talking about how bad they have it with 1 minute and 19 seconds of fighting off some wayward zombie herd that was not threatening to the main cast members.
5
McJapesApr 12, 2026
+6
Through no fault of its own being cancelled, mindhunters had so much potential. The irony would’ve been with so much popularity they would’ve ruined it anyway.
6
ben-hur-hurApr 12, 2026
+4
The 100. It got so stupid at the end but I had already watched the majority of the series and I would be damned if I get no resolution after all this time.
Also, Penny Dreadful and Almost Human.
4
universal_notionsApr 13, 2026
+4
HEROES.
CONSTANTINE.
PANTHEON.
WESTWORLD.
V (2009 VERSION).
SCAVENGER'S REIGN.
AGENT CARTER.
MARCO POLO.
LIFE.
THE OA.
THE GIFTED.
REVENGE.
THE CAPE.
MINDHUNTER.
REVOLUTION.
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