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Announcements Mar 25, 2026 at 6:56 PM

White House denies existence of 15-point Iran ceasefire plan touted by Trump days ago

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-ceasefire-plan-denial-b2945693.html
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Outrageous-Brush-860 Mar 25, 2026 +785
Wow even their lying is lying
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Toby_O_Notoby Mar 26, 2026 +62
"They don't even bother to lie badly anymore. I suppose that's the final humiliation." - Senator Oran to Mon Mothma, Andor
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Mediocre_Scott Mar 26, 2026 +1
The owners of the 20 foot high trump 2028 sign on my way to work covered it up with an American flag recently… I think that’s progress
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EddieVanzetti Mar 26, 2026 +1
They'll still vote republican, theyre just embarrassed now. Just like in 2008 you couldn't find a single person who voted for Bush. They'll lie and deny and claim to be never trumpers, but they'll vote straight ticket R. They'll put their red hats in the closet, same way their grand pappy put his klan outfit away.
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surloc_dalnor Mar 26, 2026 +1
Yeah, but I'm hoping it will mean they are less motivated to vote.
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spezial_ed Mar 25, 2026 +161
Lying²
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Genghis_Tr0n187 Mar 25, 2026 +66
4D lying
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One-Reflection-4826 Mar 26, 2026 +16
always one step ahead of the truth!
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Relevant_Respect1146 Mar 26, 2026 +1
Lmfao thank you for the laugh homie
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optimaleverage Mar 25, 2026 +28
Flood the field. This is a bullshit negotiation tactic designed to bewilder and render opponents askew. When even you don't know what you're doing, no one else could either. You only do this when you cede all credibility.
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Competitive_Quit1346 Mar 26, 2026 +6
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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SleeterRabbit Mar 25, 2026 +4
They’re alternative facting!
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SaltyyBackground Mar 25, 2026 +2781
This is how you lose international credibility in a weekend. If the U.S. President announces a ceasefire plan to the world, and then his own White House denies it exists, why would any world leader sit down at a table with us? It makes the U.S. look uncoordinated and chaotic. We’re essentially "Ghosting" the entire Middle East while claiming we’re the ones bringing the peace.
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MoundsEnthusiast Mar 25, 2026 +936
Why would Iran negotiate at this point. They were negotiating a month ago, and now most of their government top brass is dead at the hands of who they were negotiating with...
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Sufficient_Candy1642 Mar 25, 2026 +375
This is the point. Nobody should believe this administration at this point.
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Door-Leather Mar 25, 2026 +127
On top of that there’s been chatter the negotiations were a feint for intel gathering and to put Iran on the back foot, for the purposes of setting up an attack
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Witchgrass Mar 25, 2026 +110
Twice now we've used negotiations as a means to get them all in one place for an attack and then kegsbreath says we negotiate with bombs?! Why on earth would they ever deal with us in good faith ever again?
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The_Peeping_Peter Mar 25, 2026 +83
Don’t forget sinking an unarmed battleship coming home from a joint country exercise that we were initially a part of.
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Witchgrass Mar 25, 2026 +37
I almost did forget about that thank you for the reminder So infuriating
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tolacid Mar 25, 2026 +51
What pisses me off more than *all of that shit*, is that every single week we have another set of *all of that shit* which somehow manages to completely supplant all memory of previous sets of *all of that shit* by being somehow **far more heinous** than *all of that shit!*
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JDogg126 Mar 26, 2026 +1
We should all be pissed but also this a****** should have been removed from office long ago. This country was simply not designed to withstand a flood of illegal or questionable actions by a rogue president and our adversaries like Russia knew that which is why they worked to get Trump in office. This country has become a powder keg since 2016.
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MindlessFile3499 Mar 26, 2026 +16
That's pretty much the MO of all of these dipshits. They all take after their leader in spouting off as much verbal diahhrea as possible in hopes that we'll all forget. Sadly, 30+% of the USA funnels it down their throats while the rest of us watch in disbelief/disgust/etc.
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Witchgrass Mar 26, 2026 +11
Yep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_the_zone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
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dehydratedrain Mar 26, 2026 +13
What pisses me off is he'll probably be cheating at golf while people are dying.
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Exact-Sheepherder797 Mar 26, 2026 +1
This is by design and it's what's keeping us complacent
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ParticularInitial147 Mar 26, 2026 +1
Actually a good description of recent events
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SaberToothGerbil Mar 26, 2026 +1
In Trumps first term he also arranged a diplomatic meeting with Iran as part of an assassination. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination\_of\_Qasem\_Soleimani](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani)
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lr99999 Mar 25, 2026 +22
Next step: Big False Flag attack. For several very obvious reasons. 
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nosungdeeptongs Mar 25, 2026 +15
I’m starting to see that as less likely with the way the administration is talking. I think it’s more likely they just claim victory and leave much poorer and worse off than when they started, and with a new ayatollah who has additional incentives to reconsider if making an atomic bomb is truly haram.
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Significant_Tour4278 Mar 26, 2026 +7
And then trains and buses will start exploding again as fallout from this shit and we'll run the flag back up the pole and start all over. Freedom! 🤮
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CatholicSquareDance Mar 25, 2026 +47
they have no incentive to discontinue hostilities whatsoever, yeah. the status quo is politically advantageous to them for negotiations, and will only deteriorate for the USA. Iran would be stupid to take part in any deal that doesn't give them massive concessions from the US unless the US does something drastic soon (which nobody really wants at all).
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the_good_time_mouse Mar 25, 2026 +21
I suspect that the marines being sent to Karg island are being sacrificed to change publc sentiment. The "peace plan" was Trump stalling until Friday, when they arrive. Trump can't make things better for himself, so he's making it worse in the hopes of finding a way to make it better for himself from the chaos :(
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StanDaMan1 Mar 25, 2026 +22
“Look at all the Marines I got killed.” Yeah, that’ll make people rally around the flag.
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the_good_time_mouse Mar 25, 2026 +3
MAGA hate losing? I'm not saying it's a winning strategy, but it's definitely a very Trumpian one. And the invasion is going to happen, along with the massacre.
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GardeniaInMyHair Mar 25, 2026 +3
Support among the GOP for the war will drop, but agreed, he's sending them into a certain woodchipper.
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nightimestars Mar 25, 2026 +14
lmao. How is shoving soldiers into the meat grinder going to change public opinion? Nobody thought they should be there in the first place. Them dying over there is just the consequence of the loser president throwing the first punch.
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Mordred_Tumultu Mar 25, 2026 +15
They're hoping for a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor style "they killed our boys, we need to hit them back!" emotional response, and they're not going to get it because the average person knows the boys shouldn't have been put there, directly in harm's way.
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Ooji Mar 26, 2026 +1
Idk, a not insignificant part of the population still thinks Kyle Rittenhouse was a courageous young man who acted in self defense.
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phoneacct696969 Mar 25, 2026 +39
I heard on npr that the United States brought no nuclear advisors, and no one present took any notes.
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Door-Leather Mar 25, 2026 +54
Our negotiators were real estate developers who felt comfortable to negotiate regarding nuclear enrichment because they “read up on the subject”
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RJ5R Mar 25, 2026 +9
the fact they even read up on the subject is already impressive for this administrations appointees. the guy that trump selected for fema didn't even know there was a hurricane season
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Door-Leather Mar 25, 2026 +14
Maybe true but I’d also not blink in surprise if it turned out they didn’t actually read up on anything and relied on their innate intelligence. These are the class of people who think they’re high IQ because they’re rich (and you can throw Trump and Musk into that as well), I don’t trust their self-assessment of their proficiency in the slightest
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Neuroware Mar 25, 2026 +5
they thought it was another criminal conspiracy
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absentmindedjwc Mar 25, 2026 +81
also working with a group that has been known to invite foreign leaders somewhere to negotiate.. and then bomb that location when they're there.
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chiaboy Mar 25, 2026 +33
Never mind the deal there was a multi-national nuclear treaty in effect. Trump tore it up because he’s a racist dumbass. Even if you get a deal there’s no evidence America will keep her word.
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Flamboiant_Canadian Mar 25, 2026 +12
The US bombing the negotiation table is why there be no negotiations. 
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JakeConhale Mar 25, 2026 +16
We negotiated years ago and then a new President unilaterally cancelled the agreement without cause.
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FishermanExpensive Mar 25, 2026 +4
Let’s also point out that the best negotiation we can possibly hope for would result in… the exact same deal Trump tore up because Obama signed it. Hey, at least a bunch of US military personnel got to die though.
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TrailerTrashQueen Mar 25, 2026 +3
now they're not negotiating, just posting epic diss tracks.
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Dahcchad Mar 26, 2026 +1
And they have significant leverage controlling the straight. They're being bombed but they could mine that sucker, blow up some desalination plants, and have the rest of the world beating down the white house walls for a cessation of hostilities. Im not an Iran fan, but they have more political cards here than the US, especially if Trump escalates (which is a given).
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GargantuaBob Mar 25, 2026 +251
> It makes the U.S. look uncoordinated and chaotic. It's not merely "a look" It **shows** that the US is uncoordinated and chaotic.
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Rebal771 Mar 25, 2026 +115
Yeah, this isn’t a facade. America is running wild, and there is no plan. There is. No. Plan.
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scuzzy987 Mar 25, 2026 +46
The plan is to get rich in every conceivable way possible
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Lurking_nerd Mar 25, 2026 +40
Exactly. There’s a plan to loot and plunder the US by the Epstein class and it’s working out perfectly. They don’t care about people or civilization. Just hoarding gold like fucked up dragons.
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Zedilt Mar 25, 2026 +7
Well there is a concept of a plan.
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Toby_O_Notoby Mar 26, 2026 +6
I loved tweet from the Pakistani Defence Minister which was: "The goal of the war seems to have shifted to opening the Strait of Hormuz, which was open before the war."
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HeartFullONeutrality Mar 26, 2026 +1
Tale as old as trump. Create a problem and then claim credit for solving it.
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absentmindedjwc Mar 25, 2026 +36
The US announces a ceasefire plan, Iran publicly rejects it.. and then the white house pretends that it never existed in the first place. Definitely giving off those "strong leader" vibes.
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MaxRD Mar 25, 2026 +61
You need to have international credibility to begin with, in order to lose it
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humanoideric Mar 25, 2026 +19
"The goal of the war seems to have shifted to opening the strait of Hormuz, which was open before the war." Lol
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asbestoswasframed Mar 25, 2026 +12
Does the US have credibility with Iran? I mean, the current president has reneged on the last two deals in place - and used one of the time he welched to assassinate one of their military leaders. I mean, fool me thrice - amirite?
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starswtt Mar 25, 2026 +3
The US hasn't had credibility in Iran for a long time. After 9/11, Iran actually gained a lot of sympathy for Americans and the government actually aided the US, and there was even an internal power struggle between the reformers and the hardliners, and relations between Iran and the west was genuinely tjawing. And then Bush called Iran an axis of evil, and the pro reform side lost all credibility. And Iran literally used to have a functioning, albeitow stability democracy, before the west orchestrated a coup against the democratically elected government and and reimposed the shah's authority, breaking the credibility of democracy in Irafor generations. To this day, the biggest argument against democracy in the region isn't actually in support of theocracy, but out of fear that a weaker government wouldn't be able to resist the west, and the hypocrisy of western democracies/that western democracies can't be trusted. Its also no coincidence that the young people only started turning back to democracy now, the first generation of young adults who largely grew up after 9/11 rather than during it. Now trump's attacks weren't actually as bad for pro democracy sentinents in Iran as unlike the other 2 examples, this only polarized support. Pro status quo people feel justified by this and are now really afraid of a hostile takeover by the west. Pro overtake the current government people feel emboldened by this as the Iranian government is less able to stop protests right now. The reformists who wanted to fix the current system and make it democratic have been completely pushed out of the system and now either join the pro overthrow side or the pro status quo side, generally leaning towards the latter because of fears of syrianization
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LeftToaster Mar 25, 2026 +23
To lose international credibility you have to have international credibility.
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WanderingKing Mar 25, 2026 +17
It blows my mind people think just having a new admin will suddenly make the world like us Reality check: America as a WHOLE has lost so much of its soft power and influence. When China takes over the US as the number 1 global power, remember that while this wasn’t the only factor, it was one of the most influential
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babybirdingURgrandma Mar 25, 2026 +8
It was yet another head fake for the markets for the trump brood's insider trading
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Lucar_Bane Mar 25, 2026 +7
Iran also denies any communication with the US and they launch some missiles this morning diected at US asset so there is no ceasefire in place. This is beyond imagination.
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daninmontreal Mar 25, 2026 +17
the US lost that credibility years ago tbh
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Global_Staff_3135 Mar 25, 2026 +5
I think we lost international credibility years ago.
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turningsteel Mar 25, 2026 +5
Did this WH ever have credibility? People aren't stupid. Iran knows who they are dealing with. The United States IS uncoordinated and chaotic. The entire world knows Trump is the biggest moron to have ever held the presidency.
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JackXDark Mar 25, 2026 +11
To lose something, you have to have it in the first place.
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Kathulhu1433 Mar 25, 2026 +3
Lose in a weekend?  Buddy, we lost international credibility a year ago. 
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kawhi21 Mar 25, 2026 +3
\>This is how you lose international credibility in a weekend No it isn't. The White House and Trump have done this song and dance like 100 times already this administration. Trump says "I'm going to do this" and his press says "Trump never said that". It happens every single day.
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hm9408 Mar 25, 2026 +3
The media should press them and ask "are you calling the president a liar" and watch them implode
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B-Z_B-S Mar 25, 2026 +623
Fascist administration. Doesn't care about the facts, and just wants to convey a narrative.
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cybah Mar 25, 2026 +137
Right but they can’t even keep their narrative consistent by the day
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If_I_must Mar 25, 2026 +66
They don't see any reason to be consistent.
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DrunkAndHornyGuy Mar 25, 2026 +11
Every nightly news broadcast of the big three tonight aired the 15 point plan claim as an irrefutable truth. In our current media landscape there is no benefit for a republican to ever tell the truth since their lies will be unquestionably reported as reality.
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One-Reflection-4826 Mar 26, 2026 +4
their cult will vote for them anyway, the rest is done with ratfucking and election fraud.
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SwissChzMcGeez Mar 25, 2026 +22
Narrative: Whatever Trump wants in this moment is right, everyone else is wrong. See, consistency!
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ShartingEnU Mar 25, 2026 +11
Market manipulation
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brasilkid16 Mar 25, 2026 +3
Honestly would love to know what the throughline is. They contradict each other every other day! I get the confusion and obfuscation is the point but come on, what even is the trajectory they're following?
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Lucius-Halthier Mar 25, 2026 +3
Do not believe your eyes and ears, believe the regime, that was one of the lessons from “1984”, and this regime wants you to do that while they have the big brothers Flock and Palantir monitor you.
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drtolmn69 Mar 25, 2026 +293
His brain is like moldy cottage cheese by now.
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StopTheDamnWave Mar 25, 2026 +49
Moldy cottage cheese would like to be kept out of this one..
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djanes376 Mar 25, 2026 +10
I like moldy cottage cheese far more than I like that man, and I hate moldy cottage cheese.
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Narianos Mar 25, 2026 +5
More like Swiss cheese. Numerous holes in that hollow brain.
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smurfsundermybed Mar 25, 2026 +135
The words came out of his mouth. He specifically stated a 15 point list of demands.
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TripleJ80 Mar 25, 2026 +67
13 points, because points 1-3 were the same. 🤦‍♂️ when will this end?!?!
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lr99999 Mar 25, 2026 +8
Unfortunately, I think the question is how. I really hate that question.  I think the answer is BAD.
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Made_Human_Music Mar 25, 2026 +73
What he actually said was: "It’s a 45 days, 45 points, 1 point per day, we get to 45 points we’re back in business!"
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ProfessorPliny Mar 25, 2026 +18
Limo Lady, we are going completely carbon neutral!
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The_GrimTrigger Mar 25, 2026 +8
I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I first heard that line. So freaking funny. 😄
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aerose23 Mar 25, 2026 +11
I thought of this right away when I heard him say 15 points. Well done!
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NYGiants181 Mar 25, 2026 +4
Thought of this scene the second he said this stupid shit.
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gir6 Mar 25, 2026 +4
First thing I thought of when I saw this headline.
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Dry_Okra_4839 Mar 25, 2026 +4
Trump should have done the twirl.
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notmyworkaccount5 Mar 25, 2026 +53
Days ago? Wasn't it literally just yesterday and they openly pitched it?
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Rabbit-Hole-Quest Mar 26, 2026 +8
Not just openly pitched it….They literally handed it to Pakistan to discuss it with Iran. Imagine the poor b****** diplomat handing the plan and get told that what was provided isn’t even genuine.
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kia75 Mar 25, 2026 +89
That was days ago's talking points, we've moved on to *NEW* talking points! Get it together, Press! Pretty soon you'll be highlighting how we won Iran already while moving a large amount of soldiers into the region, or how we don't need any other nation's help, while calling other nations cowards for not helping us!
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OK_x86 Mar 25, 2026 +8
We solved the war but still need 200 billion dollars
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insitnctz Mar 26, 2026 +5
On Friday night we are probably making a very "coordinated" and "well executed attack" in which we kill 50 high ranking officials and take out every key base on kharg island, on Saturday we will destroy their power plants, on Sunday we will wipe Iran out of the face of the earth and on Monday, once markets open again, we beg for ceasefire again and for the war to end. And this will keep going for idk how long, while in the meantime Americans and Iranians will die for no reason at all and while we get poorer and poorer
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Hoppers-Body-Double Mar 25, 2026 +39
If y'all want the cliffnotes on these dipshits, just read 1984.
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WalnutSnail Mar 25, 2026 +3
When a warning was used as a playbook.
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Heklin0891 Mar 25, 2026 +36
So trump announces 15 point plan. Iran has announced rejecting 15 point plan. And counter proposed 5 point plan. Trump has threatened that destruction of Iran if they don’t make peace with White House. And now White House denies that there was a 15 point plan. Why is Iran the more credible party here.
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tinyE1138 Mar 25, 2026 +26
"...may not be “entirely factual.” They should have to start off every press briefing with that.
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Amount_Business Mar 25, 2026 +5
This is an entertainment press briefing .... 
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Zulmoka531 Mar 25, 2026 +39
There’s also the theory that keeps floating around that Trump isn’t actually in control and [and is being gaslight by his own people only showing him positive morning montages of the war.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-gets-daily-video-montage-briefing-iran-war-rcna263912)
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runawaydoctorate Mar 25, 2026 +22
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse. Do you really think that Trump himself is being gaslit? Or are they showing him the pretty pictures because they're a bunch of cowardly sycophants who are afraid of what might happen to them if they don't tell him what he wants to hear? I know that the end result is the same, but the root cause is very different. If Trump's being gaslit, he's not in charge and we need to identify who is and direct protests in that direction. If Trump's surrounded by sycophants, he's in still in charge and still worth our energy.
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Zulmoka531 Mar 25, 2026 +9
Then my apologies for using the wrong wording, I was in no way trying to give that f***** a free pass.
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runawaydoctorate Mar 26, 2026 +1
It's not so much a free pass as a completely different kettle of fish. Trump remains a f***** in either scenario.
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pfannkuchen89 Mar 25, 2026 +12
I mean, it was widely reported on during his first term that he refused to pay attention to briefings unless they sprinkled his name and flattery into them. Of course they are only showing him what they think he wants to see.
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NYGiants181 Mar 25, 2026 +6
My mom has the same dementia as him. It would work for her too. He's so gone it's not even funny.
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Mother_Airline_6276 Mar 25, 2026 +19
We’re a joke to the world. We just happen to be armed to the teeth, and that’s why the globe hasn’t shit on us completely.
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morbihann Mar 25, 2026 +12
Ok, so was he completely out of touch then or did he intentionally lie ? Or are you lying now, because it has to be one of those.
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KopOut Mar 25, 2026 +8
Let me guess. Now that Iran has rejected it and come back with its own proposal we will find out that an un-named staffer sent the plan without approval. Likely the same one that used Trump’s personal truth social account to post racist memes.
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Cielo11 Mar 25, 2026 +9
Almost like Donald Trump says whatever c*** he can think of in that moment to suit the situation he's in. Then he's forgotten it by the next day. The sad part is the 10s millions of Americans who don't seem to be smart enough to see that, and keep voting for him.
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JeffSteinMusic Mar 25, 2026 +13
There comes a point where reporting everything out of this regime and this political party serves to deliberately confuse the public more than it serves to inform. And that’s for those who *want to know*. I get that a lot of liberals still go along with the whole “they’re stupid buffoons who don’t know what they’re doing lol taco” thing, but really when looking at it through the prism of they’re deliberately being as incompetent as possible in order to hurt our society and standing in the world and to consistently mislead and exhaust the public, it makes a lot more sense and you can’t deny their success at achieving these objectives.
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absentmindedjwc Mar 25, 2026 +4
Lets be entirely honest here... even if there *were* a ceasefire agreement.. even if it were reasonable enough for Iran to agree.. This weak-ass administration wouldn't have any ability to stop Israel from sending bombs just for the laughs, immediately breaking the ceasefire agreement.
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NotThatAngel Mar 25, 2026 +5
Trump didn't have any reasons to start the Iran war. Trump doesn't have any idea how to stop the Iran war. The enormity of the incompetence is so boggling it almost eclipses the Epstein files.
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Intel-Source Mar 25, 2026 +3
That's the idea!
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MysticalFerret Mar 26, 2026 +1
Administration is a clown show
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FrostedVoid Mar 25, 2026 +2
We have never been at war with Eastasia
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Loreki Mar 25, 2026 +5
Iran may not have defeated the US yet, but it certainly has completely defeated Donald Trump. He's so confused and helpless. None of his usual tricks work on them.
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Silver_Recluse Mar 26, 2026 +4
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." \-- George Orwell
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Im_Talking Mar 25, 2026 +7
America is a joke now. A cartoon. Like the Keystone cops running around bumping into each other, as they go through the motions of doing their cop-stuff. Except the Keystone cops were meant for a laugh, not politics. America First has turned into America Alone. Or a better analogy would include Trump's cameo, so it's America - Home Alone.
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Kamamura_CZ Mar 25, 2026 +3
Pathetic. This bunch of clowns cannot even agree on which way is up...
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FaithlessnessWhich18 Mar 25, 2026 +3
The whole Regime lies only when they lose power will the truth come out
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Salt-Initiative-8159 Mar 25, 2026 +3
She just looks tired of having some old guys balls on her face.
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RadicalRectangle Mar 25, 2026 +3
I mean, we knew that when he said the first 3 points on the 15 point plan were no nukes. I just don’t understand how people can still believe any words out of his mouth at all.
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recentgrooves Mar 25, 2026 +3
They can’t keep up with his lies and his insider trading
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Ayitaka Mar 25, 2026 +3
The President of the United States of America has become the "Sure, grandma. Lets get you to bed" meme.
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VOZ1 Mar 25, 2026 +3
Even more hilarious given I listened to some Israeli government official giving an interview to the BBC and talking about the 15 point plan the US has proposed. These guys are the worst f****** liars ever, my 4 year old can stick to a story better than they can.
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Mr60SPX Mar 25, 2026 +3
They are essentially saying the White House and the President are two separate entities.
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randonegus Mar 26, 2026 +3
“Most transparent administration” my ass
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ActualTymell Mar 26, 2026 +3
Nothing "Sleepy Joe" or his administration did even comes close to the farcical ineptitude of this one, or the shameless contempt it shows for the people it is supposed to be governing.
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-_-0_0-_0 Mar 26, 2026 +3
I miss Sleepy Joe. I miss stability.
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Several_Vanilla8916 Mar 26, 2026 +3
I mean…in fairness to the White House trump almost certainly made that whole thing up on the spot.
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NoGoat3930 Mar 26, 2026 +3
Of course there's no plan. Epstein ! Epstein ! EPSTEIN !!!
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CoastersandHikes Mar 26, 2026 +1
This lady better be comfortable with the term Nazi, because that's what she is
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BeKindBabies Mar 26, 2026 +1
Post title extremely misleading. I loathe this administration and this woman but: “I saw a 15-point plan that was floated in the media. I would caution reporters in this room from reporting about speculative points or speculative plans from anonymous sources. The White House never confirmed that full plan. There are elements of truth to it, but some of the stories I read were not entirely factual,” she said. She's saying guessing the outline of the plan or reporting on it has been inaccurate, not that it doesn't exist. Do I believe anything Trump says? No. Flipside I'm pretty tired of these kinds of headlines. Just report on the regular lying, don't stretch it.
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ScipioTheGreatest Mar 25, 2026 +22
"“I saw a 15 point plan that was floated in the media. I would caution reporters in this room from reporting about speculative points or speculative plans from anonymous sources. The White House never confirmed that full plan. There are elements of truth to it, but some of the stories I read were not entirely factual,” she said. Her comments appeared to cast doubt on whether any such plan exist," She said, by their own quote, that there were "elements of truth" to it but that some reporting was "not entirely factual". That, in absolutely no way, casts doubt on whether a plan exists, just says some media reporting on it is incorrect. This is a perfect example of modern, shitty journalism.
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Prize-Bumblebee-2192 Mar 25, 2026 +48
Wdym? Trump literally said he had a 15 point plan. He’s either lying or delulu This is on Trump. Not the journalists Iran has received Trump's 15-point plan to end war, report says https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/24/trump-iran-war-negotiations.html [Trump 15 point plan comments](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/24/trump-iran-war-negotiations.html)
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Serpentongue Mar 25, 2026 +12
She’s probably trying to say one of the 15 listed points are incorrect so we should ignore the whole list, especially now that it’s been rejected
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Prize-Bumblebee-2192 Mar 25, 2026 +17
There was never a list. He said points 1, 2 and 3 were ‘keeping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon’ Lies. He’s just making it up. Maybe he thinks there should be a 15 point plan. This man just says anything that comes to mind that he thinks people will want to hear. ‘Maybe we inject bleach to kill the Covid..’
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beauxite Mar 25, 2026 +3
It's more so a 13-point plan.
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albinobluesheep Mar 25, 2026 +3
He's getting worse at doubling down when asked for details, or reporters are just getting better at asking a quick follow up to clarify what the hell he just said. Probably both.
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LeftToaster Mar 25, 2026 +11
It's a war, it's not a war. Iran's nuclear program was obliterated last summer, but the objective of the war/not-war is to obliterate Iran's nuclear program. Iran was an immanent threat but has a weak military defense, no active nuclear program and the US navy/Air Fore obliterated them in a few hours. It's not the job of The National Security Advisor to determine if Iran was an immanent threat. The Strait of Hormuz is not closed (there is just some shooting at ships) but Iran must open the Strait. But it's not our problem. It's good for American oil producers. The US doesn't need or want the assistance of allies, but why aren't our allies (who we have insulted, threatened and bullied for over a year) helping us. They are cowards. The Trump Administration is in negotiations with Iran, but is not talking to Iran. Iran used Tomahawk missiles to blow up a girls school, which was a legitimate military target for the US, except that it was the Israelis. There are clear objectives and a plan to achieve them. It will be very quick, possibly months, maybe September. It will end when Trump feels it in his bones. It won't / will require boots on the ground. The war/not-war was Trumps idea, Pete Hegseth's idea, but Netanyahu forced their hand. US offered a 15 point plan to end war/not-war. There is no 15 point plan. We negotiate with bombs. All very clear.
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chriskot123 Mar 25, 2026 +7
I mean, putting the onus on the media for this when it is clear this admin doesn't even know wtf is going on at any given moment is certainly a take.
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Made_Human_Music Mar 25, 2026 +13
That's possible but it's also much more likely that the regime is just lying and there was a plan but it was rejected and they've decided to go with their usual bullshit It's a very well known, and easily provable, fact that Trump and most of the sociopath scumbags in his regime lie and twist the truth all the time
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ThirdSunRising Mar 25, 2026 +7
It isn't possible. He is on camera saying he has a 15 point plan. And declining to elaborate on it.
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Catspaw129 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Was there a plan and the dog ate it? Or was it only just a concept of aplan?
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GarmaCyro Mar 25, 2026 +2
“I saw a 15 point plan that was floated in the media. I would caution reporters in this room from reporting about speculative points or speculative plans from anonymous sources. The White House never confirmed that full plan. There are elements of truth to it, but some of the stories I read were not entirely factual,” - Leavitt  She should really start keeping up to date on what her boss is saying and not. Said "anonymous source" was her own boss in front of various reporters. She's giving Iraq's former Minister of information some hefty competition. Comical Ali. Known for denying US's 2003 invasion of Bagdad even while coalition forces were actively taking over the city bit by bit.
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hectorpukki Mar 25, 2026 +2
This government is so amateur you’d think it’s not even possible.
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RoswellRedux Mar 25, 2026 +2
And yet, all these seemingly adults with agency are standing up in public choosing to lie and obfuscate in order to keep 'him' from going completely berserk. Guys, it's too late. He IS gone. There is nothing in his head to protect. The stains from crawling up his ass and living there until he decides to throw you under a bus will never come off. Never.
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Zwischenzug Mar 25, 2026 +2
This constant shifting and inconsistency from the White House is why it would be difficult for Iran to trust any deal. How would they know if Trump would renege? This is probably a reason why Trump is forced to go to war. He is too untrustworthy for peace.
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BleachedUnicornBHole Mar 25, 2026 +2
This is how you know Iran fully rejected Trump’s proposal. The denial one existed is his administration’s way of saving face.
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rysker6 Mar 25, 2026 +2
“The best people”
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ChefCurryYumYum Mar 25, 2026 +2
That 15 point plan is sitting right next to the amazing gift Iran sent Trump.
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Intro-Nimbus Mar 25, 2026 +2
Monday: -"Don't believe what we said and wrote, believe what we say and write. We lied yesterday, but today we tell the truth. " Tuesday: -"Don't believe what we said and wrote, believe what we say and write. We lied yesterday, but today we tell the truth. " Wednesday: -"Don't believe what we said and wrote, believe what we say and write. We lied yesterday, but today we tell the truth. " Thursday: -"Don't believe what we said and wrote, believe what we say and write. We lied yesterday, but today we tell the truth. " etc. etc.
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lactose_cow Mar 25, 2026 +2
trump also baselessly says that obama was born in kenya, windmills cause cancer, and a hurricane was going a completely different direction. "is any of the shit trump says actually real?" -john stewart
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karenskygreen Mar 25, 2026 +2
What a f****** gong show except this isn't funny.
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Avoidtolls Mar 25, 2026 +2
Dementia as foreign policy.
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Boydford1972 Mar 25, 2026 +2
It would be funny if this wasn’t the government… America are doomed until they get rid of these amateurs
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w-d-j-3 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Mind boggling....Fearless Leader is riffing off the top of his head—badly—and gets contradicted by his underlings who obviously don't want to cook the golden goose. What a mess.
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Consistent_Ad3181 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Integrity left the building a long time ago. You can't trust a word they say.
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Mother_Airline_6276 Mar 25, 2026 +2
“You can piss on my back and tell me it’s raining, Mr. Trump, just please keep gas below $3/gal.” If ignorance equals bliss, what I wouldn’t give to be this dumb.
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The_Vaike Mar 25, 2026 +2
OK. We promised a 15 day plan, let's work backwards. Day 15, we have world peace. Now what's day 14?
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Excellent_Project789 Mar 25, 2026 +4
Collect underpants.
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Chrimaho Mar 25, 2026 +2
DARVO only works so long when the internet exists.
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Vegetable-Hold9182 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Well at least Iran doesn’t know what we’re doing, cause we sure as shit dont
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CandyCornToes Mar 25, 2026 +2
HE LIED????!!!?!?!?!? Release the Trump/Epstein Files.
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rye_212 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Next up, they will deny that there is any war with Iran. 😀
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PF_Nonsense Mar 25, 2026 +2
It's a 15 day 15 point plan, we get one point per day and we are back in business!
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stokelydokely Mar 25, 2026 +2
There was never a 15-point plan. Trump had just learned about Wilson's 14-point plan, and 15 is better than 14, so he said it. Simple as that.
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Zedditron Mar 25, 2026 +2
The clown show keeps giving an encore...
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Disco_insperno Mar 25, 2026 +2
What a f****** joke. Clown show
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cedarpark Mar 25, 2026 +2
What about point one, two and three???
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BallBearingBill Mar 25, 2026 +2
Hell of a stock trade though lol
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Big-Yak-8928 Mar 25, 2026 +2
This administration is like the messiest group project in high school. Like no one is communicating with each other, two people are saying different things, and the rest of the class thinks they’re an absolute shit show.
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Initial_Towel_421 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Sounds like Trump is going rogue, his own administration can’t even keep track of him
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ChaoticMutant Mar 25, 2026 +2
You are so screwed as a nation
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Magicalsandwichpress Mar 25, 2026 +2
Oh, next you’ll say the interlocutor was just some random hombo that bend me over a dumpster before I came to my senses! You’re too much, lady!
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allIsOneOfCourse Mar 25, 2026 +2
what in the holy f*** are these incompetent clowns doing?
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ImaginationToForm2 Mar 25, 2026 +2
It's a concept of a plan. With himself approving of it for both sides. Wanta bet he made up his big prize? (1.00 only haha)
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D-MAN-FLORIDA Mar 25, 2026 +2
Is the White House now saying there was no 15-point plan, because Iran rejected it, and they got embarrassed?
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Dizzy_Restaurant3874 Mar 25, 2026 +2
This also alters the negotiation.  How would Iran possibly enter into an agreement that DJT will change the next time that his diaper is full?
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VanVelding Mar 25, 2026 +2
When you're young, you assume some people are born stupid. When you're an adult, you learn some of them f****** practice at it.
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ReluctantSlayer Mar 25, 2026 +2
We are in full-blown 1984 mode. Disgraceful
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Appropriate_Cow94 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Ask the man, "what did you say 5 days ago" He couldn't f****** answer correctly. He'd ramble for 20 minutes and call reporter nasty.
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Goatanhi Mar 25, 2026 +2
Can we get a single straight update from these fucken morons please
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Normal-Ad6528 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Just more lies from trump & co while they steal all they can.
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Past_Ad9675 Mar 26, 2026 +2
Is it possible this guy is just completely off his rocker and is just saying *anything* to make it sound like he has good answers without any regard for what's actually, ya know, true?
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RachelMcAdamsWart Mar 26, 2026 +2
Another brick in the wall - this administration is known for lying, above all else, this is in no way surprising. They should have less than zero creditibility with any country they speak to. I guess, this is the Art of the Deal. Phenomenal winning, so much it hurts.
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BadgerSTL26 Mar 26, 2026 +2
The White House is lying so fast even they can't keep up.
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hypno_tode Mar 26, 2026 +2
Hear me out. What if the White House held a briefing and nobody came?
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Broken_chairs Mar 26, 2026 +1
He had the concepts of a 15-point plan
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