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MazPet Apr 9, 2026 +83

I guess the strait will remain closed.

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Yellow_Marker_ Apr 9, 2026 +13

[Strait](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/straight-vs-strait-straitjacket-straitlaced-usage) >!🫶🫶!<

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MazPet Apr 9, 2026 +5

Yeah. Auto correct. Just human corrected it

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Last_Fix_9764 Apr 9, 2026 +3

Also houthis are flirting with closing bab al mandab which would really only compound the situation.

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Brief_Hospital_1766 Apr 9, 2026 +3

Not really, traffic still hasn't gone back to normal since the last time they acted up.

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JoyboyActual Apr 9, 2026 -16

I guess the bombs will continue falling on their heads and destroying their country…

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phxees Apr 9, 2026 +8

Every time we kill another mother or child we will make another life long enemy of the United States. They have been at war or near war for nearly 50 years. They are built for this shit. A month or two doesn’t mean as much as people here think it does.

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JoyboyActual Apr 9, 2026 -8

That’s a pretty first world view point. Have you ever had missiles and bombs raining down over you? There’s no “getting used to it”. Their economy is ruined. The regime had to machine gun down 35,000 protesters just to cling to power. They know that anything less than victory means the end for them.

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phxees Apr 9, 2026 +6

I was in the US Army.

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JoyboyActual Apr 9, 2026 -5

Get in line bro, same here.

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jmatt9080 Apr 9, 2026 +86

Oh man if only a former US president came to some kind of agreement with Iran on their nuclear program. Oh well, I guess we’ll never know…

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randytankard Apr 9, 2026 +36

Both tearing up an existing agreement on nuclear weapons while also proving the case why you'd be better off having them is a masterstroke of genius only Donald can perform.

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Falconflyer75 Apr 9, 2026 +20

And convincing millions of people that you’re actually a genius while being the biggest screwup in history is one heck of a feat

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o_MrBombastic_o Apr 9, 2026 +17

Pretty easy when those people are also the dumbest shitstains on the bottom of America's shoes

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redditobserverone Apr 9, 2026 +5

Under the FIFA Peace laureate, the fee to go through the Strait is now $2 million per ship, while the cost of a barrel of oil reaches historic heights and let’s not forget the diplomatic genius of trying to give guns to protestors through the Kurds—who he betrayed in Syria and who kept the guns for themselves, so he sent some more.

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LordAmras Apr 9, 2026 +3

The Art of the deal

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BigCountry1182 Apr 9, 2026 +2

The former continued to allow for domestic enrichment with a promise not to cross the threshold into military grade material for an easing of sanctions The current is still allowing for a civilian nuclear program, but demanding that enrichment/recycling/storage be handled by third party countries… we’re also demanding they stop fighting proxy battles with their regional adversaries… we are offering to lift all sanctions, help them rebuild their economy and integrate it into the broader global economy in return If those concessions could be won, it would be a significantly better development for the entire world… I’m not sure who, if anyone, is wielding actual authority inside Iran right now but giving up the commitment to destroy Israel doesn’t seem like anything that can be agreed to while hardliners have any influence

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FewResearcher2606 Apr 9, 2026 +5

Unfortunately the last bit is a matter of saving a face. They can't do that, ever. Doesn't matter if you make a deal, as long as hardliners are in charge, they are going to shout death to the USA and isreal every Friday. They won't stop because that would be defeat, and based on their propagana they are destined to win as their god given right. They are not going to back down from that, they didn't for past few decades. Just made our lives miserable inside iran by committing to that. Unless the deal actually address their behavior too, it would be pointless.

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HippyHunter7 Apr 9, 2026 +7

Your talking about the current as if it's in place.....which it isnt. You see that's the key difference your leaving out.

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BigCountry1182 Apr 9, 2026 +2

Pretty sure my entire third paragraph expressed skepticism

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aluke000 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Pretty much all of what you wrote potentially would have not been an issue today if Trump didn't tear up the Obama agreement and break the fragile trust that had been created to bring Iran carefully and peacefully back into the global community. Sad.

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BigCountry1182 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Potentially, yes. It had deficiencies but it could have been a stepping stone

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GeorgeWashingfun Apr 9, 2026 -9

Iran wasn't complying with the JCPOA. The IAEA found as much, along with other international investigations.

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BendicantMias Apr 9, 2026 +16

It was complying with it until Trump tore up the deal. They don't have to comply with shit if the US isn't going to hold up their end of the bargain.

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BigCountry1182 Apr 9, 2026 -5

China, France, Russia, the UK, Germany and the EU remained parties to the agreement following US withdrawal… Iran had made the deal with them too and held to it for another year before balking themselves

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BendicantMias Apr 9, 2026 +2

The benefit of the JCPOA for Iran was to remove the sanctions on it. Trump did tear it up by unilaterally breaking that agreement and putting them under sanctions again. And note that China and Russia did not put them back under sanctions even later - this was purely the US and its vassals doing. Iran complied in exchange for sanctions relief - the west didn't hold up their end of the bargain, so why should they? They even waited awhile to fix things before moving on. And then the remainder of the west tried to punish them for it, despite their Daddy having broken his commitments. The result now is, for the sake of Daddy, France, the UK and Germany have been put under Irans' own version of 'sanctions' via the Hormuz blockade and now toll. All to please Daddy...

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BigCountry1182 Apr 9, 2026 +2

Pretty sure European powers passed banking law shields to protect Iran from American sanctions during the year between America withdrawing and Iran withdrawing

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GeorgeWashingfun Apr 9, 2026 -6

Even under your scenario(which is incorrect), you do realize that more than just Iran and the US were involved in the JCPOA, right? So Trump couldn't just "tear up the deal" even if he wanted to. Also, there's a good reason that even Biden never rejoined. He knew how ineffective it truly was and how untrustworthy Iran is.

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BendicantMias Apr 9, 2026 +6

The benefit of the JCPOA for Iran was to remove the sanctions on it. Trump did tear it up by unilaterally breaking that agreement and putting them under sanctions again. And Biden DID try to rejoin it, there was continuous negotiations over it all through his presidency. But he was unable to just reset things to the way they were, meaning he'd have to sign up for a worse deal as a result of what Trump did. And he knew Trump would weaponize that against him. And talking of 'trustworthiness' is rich for Americans lol - the country that's broken numerous partnerships and betrayed allies (ironically like the Kurds, who you guys just shamelessly approached again to help you with your failing Iran war after having betrayed them under this very same president), and multiple times attacked Iran during negotiations as well. America has long earned any and all distrust they get, unlike Iran which has negotiated with America despite that several times.

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TurbulentRadish8113 Apr 9, 2026 +7

What bits were shitty and how do we know Iran cheated on it? I really haven't followed the details. Wiki and others say Iran was complying until Trump tore it up. E.g. here's IAEA. https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-still-holding-end-nuclear-deal-iaea-report-161005676.html I think the Iranian regime is evil btw, and would prefer a free & democratic Iran.

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HippyHunter7 Apr 9, 2026 +7

If it's so shitty then why did Trump try and reinstate it with Jared Kushner?

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291000610478021 Apr 9, 2026 +7

So....the deal Obama had in place? K

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New_Combination_7012 Apr 9, 2026 +4

I guessing Trump was so relieved to receive a proposal that he didn't bother to read the terms that Iran set. Took about the same care most people take with a gym contract.

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Sweatytubesock Apr 9, 2026 +9

His red line against the release of the Trump-Epstein files definitely remains, unsurprisingly.

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trustifarian Apr 9, 2026 +3

Until his palm gets greased.

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Weskit Apr 9, 2026 +4

You mean the *red line* that both Obama AND IRAN agreed on 10 years ago? Trump is the most incompetent world leader in history.

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iRegretsEverything Apr 9, 2026 +13

remember it’s imperative that we get those WMDs and spread democracy. Feels like I’ve heard that somewhere.

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planetarybum Apr 9, 2026 +10

Don't forget, you need good guys with nukes to take out the bad guys with nukes.

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andruszko Apr 9, 2026 +4

Show me where Iran denied having highly enriched uranium

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ledelleakles Apr 9, 2026 +11

Yeah they started highly enriching it after Trump tore up the agreement not to

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Mobile-Base7387 Apr 9, 2026 +4

"highly" is a loaded word. the figure floating around out there for their stockpile is 60%, which is considerably below bomb grade.

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iRegretsEverything Apr 9, 2026 +12

They didn’t deny it, it was a part of an agreement back in 2004 that they could not have weapons grade enriched uranium. Joe Kent the director of the US National counterterrorism center said that this administration was moving the narrative so that it would be zero enrichment making it seem like they were trying make a nuclear bomb. Kent said there was nothing that proved they were.

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BendicantMias Apr 9, 2026 +2

Show me WHEN the US tore up the nuclear deal, and THEN when Iran made that highly enriched uranium. They don't have to account for complying with a deal that the US unilaterally tore up.

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HashtagDadWatts Apr 9, 2026 +1

GOP/Neocon/MAGA - it's all the same warmongering bullshit

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no-more-depravity Apr 9, 2026 +12

**Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say** [**https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/**](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/) U.S. Intelligence knew Iran had no nuclear weapons. Trump lied us into a war exactly like GW Bush did. “Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?” Trump thundered when asked about **his call for then-President George W. Bush to be impeached. “They lied.** They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none.” Trump added, “George Bush made the mistake. We can make mistakes, but that one was a beauty.” [https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-george-w-bush-lied-1364681108684854.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-george-w-bush-lied-1364681108684854.html)

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BetSquare7190 Apr 9, 2026 +3

I wonder why it's such an important issue for Iran to have highly enriched uranium.

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Loose_Skill6641 Apr 9, 2026 +9

for bombs obviously

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humboldt77 Apr 9, 2026 +6

After Israel bombed the f*** out of Lebanon today despite the supposed ceasefire I can see why Iran would want a more potent deterrent.

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BetSquare7190 Apr 9, 2026 +3

Hezbollah wants nuclear bombs as well?

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DaeguDuke Apr 9, 2026 +2

A lot of the world are realising that the only way to prevent the US from attacking them is to have nuclear weapons. Even today Trump is threatening an EU member and NATO partner.

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BendicantMias Apr 9, 2026 +4

They didn't, until the US unilaterally tore up the nuclear deal that was meant to prevent that. And this war has shown they were right to be concerned about it.

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BetSquare7190 Apr 9, 2026 +3

No they did, that was the point of trying to have a nuclear agreement with them.

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Cristoff13 Apr 9, 2026 +2

My impression is that Iran could have had a nuclear bomb well before now. But for some reason they've maintained a nuclear bomb program, but have specifically avoided actually making one.

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xj98jeep Apr 9, 2026 +2

I wonder if they've been playing the "will we? Won't we?!" game in hopes of securing a similar global spot as NK: crazy dictatorship that everyone leaves alone

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NY2GA23 Apr 9, 2026 +9

I’m starting to understand why Iran would need nuclear weapons after what Israel did to Lebanon today.

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liverpoolFCnut Apr 9, 2026 +2

Another day, another redline, another deadline. When the deadline arrives, he will predictably TACO as his base of trained seals will clap again.

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aReasonableStick Apr 9, 2026 +2

Yeah no, if the war ends its only going to reaffirm to Iran that they need nuclear weapons, and its going to make other countries also want them.

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melithium Apr 9, 2026 +2

Diddling kids is ok. Nuclear arms is not.

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VegetableYesterday63 Apr 9, 2026 +2

His red line is in pencil

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drinkduffdry Apr 9, 2026 +2

Did he read any of the 10 points?

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Main_Cranberry_5871 Apr 9, 2026 +2

This "red line" on enrichment is coming directly from Israel. It was weaponry before. Holy shit it is insane how compromised the US government is by Israel.

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HashtagDadWatts Apr 9, 2026 +2

Wild that Obama achieved so much more on this issue without starting a war over it.

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mobileKixx Apr 9, 2026 +6

Watchu gonna do about it? Huh?

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kk16 Apr 9, 2026 +3

Wait until Friday afternoon, make another thinly veiled threat. Then wait a few days until renouncing the threat, because of great peace talks, just after letting ultra rich non government affiliated people know? But what do I know, surely Don would never do that?

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mobileKixx Apr 9, 2026 +1

I'm going to destroy their civilization. After that I'm gonna get tough.

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SpareDot8685 Apr 9, 2026 +2

What’s his Neon pink line?

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Loose_Skill6641 Apr 9, 2026 +4

neon is in Saudi Arabia that's a different line

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futuriztic Apr 9, 2026 +3

Maga is begging now

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dtoddh Apr 9, 2026 +4

Don forgot who's holding the cards now.

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True_Introduction_10 Apr 9, 2026 +2

Cancel this child. She is a joke. Sleeping with her grandpa and hopefully birthing an orange baby.

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BOPSurfcasting Apr 9, 2026 +2

Another problem is Hezbollah will not stop fighting now that they have Iran to help them militarily. They don't like to stop even when they are by themselves taking a beating.

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Alicyclobacillus Apr 9, 2026 +2

Would take tens of thousands of US soldiers to go in and retrieve enriched uranium, while getting shot at Could've pursued a diplomatic solution but Iran has no reason to cave now that they have the global economy by the balls

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Some1farted Apr 9, 2026 +1

Sure, we believe that. Is the Trump Administration butt-sore after getting fucked by Iran?

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FinalVendetta Apr 9, 2026 -10

Ouch, many in listnook won't be happy about it.

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FinalVendetta Apr 9, 2026 -9

Many in listnook won't be happy about Iran giving up it's nuclear enrichment to US

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LizardWizards_ Apr 9, 2026 +6

Did that happen?

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FinalVendetta Apr 9, 2026 -5

Negotiations haven't even begun

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LizardWizards_ Apr 9, 2026 +6

Exactly. So stop talking out of your ass.

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