Surely for consistency it would be good to have the same writer throughout.
How on earth do they get the same feel and style of dialogue with all these different writers?
In the podcast related to The Expanse, they talked a lot about the production of the show, particularly the writing. In the case of that show, they had a roomful writers who all contributed to every episode. Each episode would credit a singular writer from that writers room, generally the person who wrote the first full draft of the script, but every writer in that room would contribute and make edits to maintain consistency.
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luxmesa3 days ago
+35
That’s the case for most shows. I’ll also mention that, for a show with a continuous story, the broad strokes of an individual season will be worked out in the writer’s room. So when you go to write an individual episode, you’ll already have an idea of what needs to happen in that episode.
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No_Tamanegi3 days ago
+8
That doesn't surprise me - it sounds like a fairly good system. I only cited it because I know its absolutely true for this show.
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NucularRobit3 days ago
+9
I believe it was in "The Simpsons: an Uncensored, Unauthorized History." Where the Simpsons was described the same way. They would even make sure to get every writer at least 1 credit per season they worked on for union reasons.
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solidgoldrocketpants3 days ago
+5
John Swartzwelder's scripts were hailed as being so funny that the other writers rarely had to add anything.
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No_Tamanegi3 days ago
+2
Ironically, the showrunner from The Expanse is a huge Simpsons fan.
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Prince_Jellyfish3 days ago
+49
Hey, professional TV writer here. Currently in my office on a network TV show, surfing listnook when I'm supposed to be writing.
The way TV shows writers rooms work, and what it means to be a TV writer, is a lot more complicated and interesting than a lot of folks assume.
I talk about this in a huge amount of detail in this post on the r/Screenwriting sublistnook:
[What are the different TV Writer Jobs? What does a Showrunner do?](https://www.listnook.com/r/Screenwriting/comments/1bwvp3b/what_are_the_different_tv_writer_jobs_what_does_a/?share_id=qeqBsL7fFyvbWHmNrk58u&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1)
It's worth a read, but here are a few simple thoughts:
First, the main writer of a TV show is called the Showrunner. The voice of the show is the voice of the showrunner, and a key skill for TV writers is emulating our showrunners voice on the page. This is a key job skill -- us rank-and-file TV writers spend a lot of time getting really good at writing in the voice of the showrunner as well as the characters -- its a skill that many amazing writers don't have (and don't want to have) and it takes a long time to get good at.
Second, when I turn in a draft of a script, my showrunners re-write it. Sometimes they change a word here and there, other times they rewrite everything. (Generally it's closer to the former then the latter, or I'm gonna get fired.) My job is like horseshoes -- I'm trying to get as close as I can to the mark, but then the showrunner takes it and gets it the rest of the way.
Third, (on most US shows) we all hang out in one office together and we work together to "break" (come up with the detailed plan for) each episode. It's a team effort that involves the showrunner, and we're always asking ourselves how to get closer to "the showrunner's show" -- their taste, rather than our individual taste. We draw on our life experience and things we love to inform our own scripts, but always filtered through that lens.
Finally, writing most US shows is a team effort. On a great show, we all work collectively and form a sort of hive mind for key elements of the writing, which makes the voice of the show become even more of a singular thing. But, by tradition, when I am assigned an episode, I get credited as the sole writer on that episode, no matter what other contributions my friends or bosses make. (The only exception would be if I *completely* shit the bed and what I turn in is unusable.) So, on-screen, you'll see "Written By Prince\_Jellyfish" even though it really was more of a team effort.
Feel free to AMA or check out the detailed post I linked above, or the bajillion other posts in my profile for more about TV writing in the real world.
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CarminaBananas3 days ago
+6
Would you like to write your own show solo like you would in the UK? No other writers, just your voice out there on screen. Roy Clarke has written over 400 episodes of different, successful comedies for example.
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Prince_Jellyfish3 days ago
+7
For me, personally, no. That sounds fun, but, to me, it sounds less fun than my current job.
The key fun of my job is working with other people I love to make something cooler than I could make by myself.
A big part of that is the writers room. A great writers room is filled with brilliant funny writers with varied backgrounds, life experience, and writing skills. They make my work better, and I make their work better too.
I also think that it would be impossible to write the kind of show I love to write at the pace we write it without a writers room. We write, produce, and edit 20 hour long episodes in about 10 months, and that pace and volume typically takes a team of people working collectively.
And, also, spending time in a great writers room is just about the most fun thing there is for someone like me. (That and producing episodes on set with great actors and crew; and also working on a cut with great editors and post team.)
No shade to Roy Clarke or Mike White or Taylor Sheridan or anyone who wants to be the sole creative voice on a TV show; but for me, the team is the reason I'm here.
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CarminaBananas2 days ago
+1
Thank you for the reply!
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VaguelyArtistic3 days ago
+1
Richard Osman and Marina Hyde talked about the differences on their channel/pod “The Rest Is Entertainment”. I think it came up via a question about why US shows can produce so many episodes a season/series vs the small number of episodes (sometimes just six) in the UK. This is a big part, as well as our syndication requirements.
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IndubitablyJollyGood3 days ago
+1
Do certain writers on a show focus more on specific aspects? Like say you have a big ensemble show are writers assigned to cover a specific character arc for the season or is that all a group effort? Or if not about specific characters or arcs are there certain aspects of writing where one person might take over more, like having a jokes writer and maybe a heartfelt writer or intense scenes writer? I'm sure there are people who have better strengths in certain areas and that naturally comes out but I'm wondering if they're specifically assigned with things like that in mind?
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Prince_Jellyfish3 days ago
+4
It varies based on the room. What you're describing -- writers assigned to cover a specific character arc for the season -- is not the norm, but it does happen. For example, on Shondaland shows, that seems to be the general MO; scripts are almost always written by multiple writers or even divided up by the entire room, and the 'written by' credit does not reflect who wrote even the first draft.
I do think that smart showrunners like to put together a "golf bag" or "baseball team" of writers who are good at different things. Individuals might be hired because they are great at emotional stuff in drafts, or are great at solving story problems in the room (me), or are super funny. Also writers with different life experience like being a cop/lawyer/doctor, growing up in an unusual place, or trying to staff the room with varied backgrounds/ethnicities/sexual orientations/etc. so that different folks can speak to different stories with authenticity.
And, informally, I go to my friends in the room for help all the time. If I have a friend who is super smart about emotionally rich grounded character work, I might talk to them about a particularly emotional scene; or get some funny folks to help me punch up a funny scene; or go to someone great with procedural structure to help me fix an act out or resolve some other story issue.
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IndubitablyJollyGood3 days ago
+2
Thanks so much for the detailed answer. Very interesting and informative.
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kuhpunkt2 days ago
+2
Absolutely. Like when you look at Lost... you had episodes that focussed on specific characters. I don't know if you know the characters, but there's a guy called Hurley. Almost all of his episodes were written by Kitsis and Horowitz, because they knew his "voice" the best.
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IndubitablyJollyGood2 days ago
+1
Of course I know Hurley. That makes sense for a show like Lost with a big cast and deep characterization.
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Relevant_Session_4513 days ago
+43
Most shows actually have writers room where they plan everything together first, then individual writers just execute the specific episodes based on those guidelines.
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GroovyYaYa3 days ago
+5
I wish I could remember on what platform Brett Goldstein was talking about the Ted Lasso writing room.
They had 4 white boards, essentially. One had the three season story arc. The second one had that particular season's story arc (so a more detailed timeline than the first). The third was the episode's story arc. The last one was the too funny to throw away (my title) board. Someone came up with an idea or a joke that made everyone laugh but didn't fit the episode went up there in case it worked for another episode or something.
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commandrix3 days ago
+2
So like what I heard about the writers for the Superman comics holding big annual meetings to hash out the general outline of where they want to go that year, and then they go their separate ways and write out the stories on their own.
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GrizzlyP333 days ago
+2
Yep. As someone who’s worked in writer’s rooms they’re almost always an entirely collaborative process for story, ideas, pitches, arcs, jokes, etc where the showrunner guides the boat. Sometimes the writer or an ep will be at the wheel sooner, but sometimes those credits are just figured out later on and divided up across a season.
Unless you work for Matthew Weiner and then you get no credit.
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shinyhpno3 days ago
-2
What does this mean?
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Uvtha-3 days ago
+12
A group makes an outline, the noted writer fills the outline in.
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zoobrix3 days ago
+5
And showrunners and/or head writer will make suggestions and changes before the script is approved, it's a collaborative process to get something that fits the show. And other writers might easily chip in as well.
But the way credits work for the writers it's usually one or two main writers credited. On some shows you might even see a separate "story by" or something like that before the writing credits which means someone pitched the story idea with the plot and characters but didn't write the full script with all the dialogue.
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No_Tamanegi3 days ago
+3
One of the first steps in writing a shot is what's called "breaking the story". You begin with a manuscript for what happens over the course of the entire season. Breaking it means you've made the decision what parts of that overall story happen within each episode. That way the writers can be assigned to an episode, knowing what's supposed to happen within it.
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shinyhpno3 days ago
-4
Okay, so there's no really need for the writers of each episode to communicate with each other.
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No_Tamanegi3 days ago
+7
There is. After the first draft of the script is written, the writers room all take editing passes on each script to maintain narrative consistency.
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shinyhpno3 days ago
+1
Got it. Thanks.
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Troldann3 days ago
+20
A show in the 90s called Babylon 5 is a great experiment in "what if one guy ran the show and wrote all of the episodes (22 per year)" starting somewhere in the middle of season 2 and all the way through season 5 with the exception of one episode toward the end of 5 where he asked Neil Gaiman to write an episode. That showrunner is J. Michael Straczynski, and the experience about killed him. Great show, though.
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Noblesphinx3 days ago
+3
Rowan J Coleman did a review of Babylon 5 that touches on this. My favorite anecdote from the video was that JMS was such a prolific writer, he wrote most of the material for his college news paper. So much that most people joked it was the 'Daily Joe'
Another fun tid bit is that JMS wrote the entirety of the script for the movie 'Ninja Assassin' over the course of a weekend as a favor to the Wachowskis. Wikipedia has the quote on the movies page. Fun piece of trivia for an otherwise forgettable film.
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stenebralux3 days ago
+2
JMS is crazy. Dude was writing for Spiderman, some other comics, wrote a Babylon 5 movie, a novel and some short stories.. while he was running and wrote like half the episodes for the tv show Jeremiah.
And I can't finish a script to save my life.
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ChanceFresh3 days ago
+3
Don’t most shows have this? Sometimes to mix it a little you gotta introduce different writers.
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Chumsicle3 days ago
+2
I was surprised to see Downton Abbey was, with the exception of one episode with a cowriter credit, just one person.
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mrjane73 days ago
+5
So they can prepare a lot of content in a shorter amount of time. Same reason why they have so many different directors as well. Cohesion throughout a show is typically overseen by a showrunner or producer. By having different writers and directors, they can have multiple episodes in pre and post production simultaneously.
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GuybrushThreepwood993 days ago
+2
Some shows have a writers room. Most shows have every writer collaborate together, and one writer usually takes the lead. A showrunner is usually hired to make sure a show has a consistent feel to it.
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Gl0wsquid3 days ago
+1
Beside writer's rooms, more episodic shows like procedurals and those 80's toy cartoons that had 40+ episodes a season had something called a "writer's bible", a document explaining the premise, characters, intended tone, the dos and don't of submitting a script, etc. Then the production had one or two story editor to read scripts submitted by the freelancers and rewrite as needed.
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MatthewHecht3 days ago
+1
In most non serialized shows a season of twenty episodes will have around 6 writers. This let's them write more episodes and work with each writer's strengths. It also gives more people ti brainstorm ideas.
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clashrendar2 days ago
+1
On many shows a showrunner has a writers room who break the beats of the story together, then a writer is assigned to write the script - they are the ones who get the on screen credits for the episode - but once written, the entire writers room and showrunner then contribute to rewrites of the script, honing it. It's a team effort, but an individual actually writes out the first draft.
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tinygloves_inc3 days ago
+1
Think of it like a band: different musicians, same composer. The showrunner is the “voice,” the room follows a detailed plan/bible. DVD commentaries are great for seeing how unified scripts actually are.
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ottercorrect3 days ago
+1
Occasional TV writer here! The shortest answer: writing is hard and a whole show is a lot of volume for one person to write in a reasonable timeframe.
THE PITT, for example, just opened the S3 writer's room in March, and they plan to start filming in June. That's over 1000 pages of FINISHED screenplays, not to count the thousands more pages of drafts getting there, and then getting production ready. As with anything, it helps to split the load!
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SatisfactionActive863 days ago
I think a few writers can be fine when you’re doing a long season with bottle episodes or a procedural drama, things are frequently one and done.
It doesn’t work when you’re trying to do a 6 hour movie long story arch in the form of 10 episodes and there are just as many writers.
maybe it’s a $$$$ issue where execs know writers will work for peanuts just for a chance to get in the door. if you have just one good writer, they might get ideas in their head that they deserve to be paid fairly.
Edit:
Example of good and bad sized writers rooms:
Andor Season 1 (12 Episodes):
1. Tony Gilroy
2. Dan Gilroy
3. Stephen Schiff
4. Beau Willimon
Acolyte Season 1 (8 Episodes):
1. Leslye Headland
2. Jason Micallef
3. Charmaine DeGraté
4. Jasmyne Flournoy
5. Eileen Shim
6. Claire Kiechel
7. Kor Adana
8. Cameron Squires
9. Jocelyn Bioh
10. Jen Richards
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