I live locally and it’s been confirmed that the boyfriend of the pregnant teen (and also father of the 18-month old) was working offshore and could not possibly have had any involvement.
Everyone is on edge about this.
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NlghtmanCometh1 day ago
+4976
Holy shit what a nightmare for him.
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krzykris111 day ago
+2154
Seriously. It's going to be hard for him to ever go back to the rig.
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undead_tortoiseX1 day ago
+1685
Or him to ever come off one.
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SubstantialPressure31 day ago
+1473
He's going to have to. He's now the single parent of an 18 month old. The baby was unharmed.
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stohelitstorytelling1 day ago
+791
Grandparents are absolutely going to be the primary caregivers.
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forest1wolf22 hr ago
+283
He got a 15 year old pregnant when he was 16, tale as old as time
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ConnotationalRacket21 hr ago
+352
Most teen pregnancies are fathered by adult men. It’s less common for an underage boy to be the father.
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Critical_Opening_52620 hr ago
+49
Not calling you a liar cause thats weird. But I'm gonna need a source on this claim.
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chrissesky1320 hr ago
+217
u/trinton gave a pretty great response 5 years ago.
>I think it's super important to have resources available to teen boys dealing with pregnant partners and to remember they also their lives impacted.
>We need to help support teens of both genders take control of their reproductive health and avoid the lifelong consequences of having a child young.
>For those that do - we should support both teen parents to be successful in their parenting and in other areas of their life.
>Collecting information is the first step to providing support.
>But it's also important to remember that a lot of teen pregnancies involve a serious power imbalance - a lot of teen pregnancies don't involve a teenage boy. It really depends on the stats you're looking at how many are adult men.
>I can pull up some stats. This one from 1999 puts it at a quarter of teen pregnancies:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10227344/
>Other studies seem to hover around the same stat:
https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/1997/03/age-differences-between-minors-who-give-birth-and-their-adult-partners
>Other studies show much harsher statistics. One source says "Finally, for the youngest mothers of most concern to policy makers, those under age 15, about six times more babies are fathered by men over age 20 than by peer boys (National Center for Health Statistics 1908-2003)."
>As I understand it, many studies cut off the adult partners age at around 30 to avoid capturing incest statistics, which is a limitation.
>I wish the article talked about the reality that a lot of teen pregnancies happen under traumatic circumstances, and there might be a reason why the mom isn't listing the father.
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hopelesscaribou15 hr ago
+21
Risk factors for adult paternity in births to adolescents - PubMed https://share.google/uGpLaE65A20CPQmMa
*Objective: To examine the risk factors for adult (aged 20 years and older) paternity in births to teenagers (14-17 years of age).*
*Results: Adult fathers, who were responsible for 49.2% of births to teenage mothers, were a mean of 6.4 years older than the mother.*
(That's not including the 18-19 year old men also impregnating younger teens.)
In Australia, *Studies indicate that 40% of 15-year-old girls who give birth have a partner at least 20 years of age.*
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wwaxwork16 hr ago
+17
70% of the fathers in teen pregnancies are over 20. In most cases the father is 5+ years older than the mother.
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undead_tortoiseX1 day ago
+101
Nah, that rig check is going to childcare.
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NlghtmanCometh1 day ago
+387
It’s going to be hard for him to even exist. Like he cannot under any circumstances be left by himself for awhile.
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foolishdrunk21123 hr ago
+81
Never mind the off chance he’s arrested at some point if he figures out who did it before the cops do and decides to deal with it himself.
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Enough-Cantaloupe89323 hr ago
+61
If im a judge im probably going to be nice at least
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ThisOneForMee21 hr ago
+41
I'm guessing an oil rig worker who got his 17 year old GF pregnant with second child isn't the type to be solving murder cases
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bbennett10820 hr ago
+13
If the murderer was someone who knew them (and not just a random killer), the boyfriend doesn’t need to be Sherlock to suspect & confront them.
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mymemesnow19 hr ago
+20
The vast majority of murders are committed by someone very close to the victim, so it’s even possible that he already have a pretty good ide of who it was.
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CatfishEnchiladas17 hr ago
+3
Only 50% of the murders in the US are solved annually.
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Nice-Cat372721 hr ago
+10
Honestly it's going to be hard to convict someone who killed a serial killer
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foolishdrunk21121 hr ago
+37
Technically speaking, you don’t know it’s a serial killer. It was a mass killer until it happens the same way to another person then it would be serial killer
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Minute_Jacket_45231 day ago
+202
Probably the opposite, guys who work on rigs like that tend to bury themselves in work after something as bad as that happens.
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This_Site_Sux1 day ago
+65
I don't think there's many guys on the rig dealing with this level of grief.
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Minute_Jacket_45231 day ago
+199
No, but theres a lot of roughnecks who lost their wives or kids that just went to the rigs and never left. A lot of them do not have as strong of a support network away from the rigs, so they go back to someplace thats 'normal' to avoid the reality of that stuff.
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--___---___-_-_1 day ago
+40
Betting also a few of them jumped off that rig
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Minute_Jacket_45231 day ago
+76
Yep, as well as a few other ways that I've heard about but will not repeat because you don't need those mental images.
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SweetVsSavory18 hr ago
+3
Could I go to the rig at 38?
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Minute_Jacket_452318 hr ago
+7
Probably not a good idea to get into the oilfield at that age unless you're a truck driver, that shits rough on your body. I know several people that are in the industry, working in both rigs that are on land and ones that are at sea. Their bodies are shot by age 30 after working since they were 18, and you don't want your 40s and 50s to be hell.
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Nervous-Research-8871 day ago
+233
Really eerie. I’ll never forget citronelle, probably a decade ago now.
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McMema1 day ago
+74
Dear Baby Jesus! What a bad day to be curious and have the internet at my fingertips.
Or Bayou la batre and the dauphin island bridge. I still think about those poor babies every time I drive over it.
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kittykatsrulemyworld21 hr ago
+39
They think there are multiple perpetrators at this time because the victims were all in different rooms and tied up. Just horrible. FYI, this article is more graphic than the one from OP.
[Link to Article](https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/pregnant-teen-her-mother-and-little-brother-killed-in-alabama/507-b1de4c45-ec2a-4f94-8e53-e339ec4f1072)
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Kotruljevic14581 day ago
+338
Odd that the reporting didn't identify to whom the 18 month old belonged. If it was the teenager, that means she was likely pregnant at 14 so I was hoping it wasn't hers.
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DegaussedMixtape15 hr ago
+20
It feels pretty insensitive to dig into that detail when she is a 17 year old who was just murdered, but this article does say the 18 month old was hers. https://www.al.com/crime/2026/04/we-lost-four-people-in-one-night-family-mourns-after-sick-individual-murders-mother-son-pregnant-teen.html
Someone in this thread also mentioned the dad of the 18 month old was "working offshore", so presumably older.
It’s a tragic story all around, but the ages are pretty suspect for this all having happened legally.
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Persimmon-Mission1 day ago
+213
It’s Alabama. Just saying
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ArsenalinAlabama342823 hr ago
+103
For sure but as someone who lives an hour from where this happened...it's still out of the ordinary. Even in Alabama it's very easy to get an education and being a normal ass person. Sometimes I forget about the trailer park crowd until I see stories like this.
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jandeer1422 hr ago
+40
teen pregnancy has been on a downward trend all over the country
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zendayaismeechee21 hr ago
+33
Yea I don’t know why everyone is assuming the 18 month old belonged to the teenager. Could’ve been a sibling? Either way the whole thing is utterly horrific
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runawaydoctorate23 hr ago
+38
What about the older woman and the 12 year-old? Were they related to him or the teenager? I'm trying to grasp the scale of the tragedy.
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TwoPoundzaSausage23 hr ago
+52
Probably her mom and her brother
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Diazepampoovey022920 hr ago
+74
Well yeah!!
The bit in the article about the 18 month old being completely unharmed...
SOMEONE LEFT THIS YEAR AND A HALF OLD BABY ALONE AND UNATTENDED WITH THREE DEAD RELATIVES. HOW THE F*** is that "unharmed?" I mean, yes, I understand. The child was not abused or murdered. However, this literal baby/not even a toddler yet, was left without anyone taking care of them... the amount of awful things that could have happened to that kid just due to how little ones crawl and climb and poke and prod at things they don't understand yet.
God, everything about this is horrible.
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Icankeepthebeat18 hr ago
+33
I’m praying it happened over night and that poor, poor baby didn’t see anything/ was left in their crib. Sounds like a family member found the victims in the morning.
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X-ScissorSisters17 hr ago
+17
Right? Completely irresponsible thing to do after murdering three people.
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DomitiusAhenobarbus_1 day ago
+188
How old is he? She was 17 with an 18 month old baby?
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KimJongFunk1 day ago
+432
I checked the Facebook accounts and he appears to be similar enough in age that I wouldn’t call it a red flag, especially for the area they live.
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Tu_mama_me_ama_mucho1 day ago
+321
And the guy went to work offshore to support (I guess) the family.
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Dankany1 day ago
+384
Regardless it seems they were just together at a very young age and he was trying to step up and support his family. This is terrible for him and I hope he will be ok.
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A1000eisn122 hr ago
+104
Offshore work pays really well and is common in the area. I knew quite a few people with various offshore jobs.
It's also really difficult. I feel so bad for him and the toddler.
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adamtnewman21 hr ago
+69
It pays well because that job is really dangerous. One wrong move and you're badly injured or worse, dead. I feel bad for him too. He was just trying to support his family. Reminds me of my hard working dad.
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Arthurs_librarycard91 day ago
+55
When I attended high school, there were many girls who had at least two children before graduation because they had already been pregnant before.
I did not agree with that, but it is common in some places.
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AreaWoman119 hr ago
+14
When I was a high school sophomore, I befriended a "new" girl in my class who was also on the track team with me. I say "new", because one day I found out she was actually a year older but had taken a year off because she'd had her FOURTH kid. She just dropped that piece of info like it wouldn't shock super-innocent me. Four by the age of 17 is wild. No idea where she is today, this was in 1996.
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Arthurs_librarycard913 hr ago
+3
Wow. That information would have shocked me as well.
My ISD used to have a school specifically for pregnant students, but I have never come across someone with four kids in high school. Hopefully her life turned out okay.
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cantproveidid15 hr ago
+3
First kid in my class in school got pregnant at 12. That was in Massachusetts in the early 1960s.
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Arthurs_librarycard913 hr ago
+3
That is *wild*, even for the 60s. No idea if that was consensual or not, but I am sure having a child that young was very traumatic.
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Neravariine20 hr ago
+5
Yep. Every teen mom I knew in high school never made it to college or a good career but had more kids later. Most are good mothers(I hope) but early pregnancy meant they'd never had a chance.
Teachers wrote them off, friends dropped them after graduation, and guidance counselors recommended being SAHM.
There kids are also likely to have children by high school as well. I also don't agree with it but not my uterus, not my business.
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sir-winkles21 day ago
+185
this isn't that crazy in the south
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slapmasterslap1 day ago
+323
Small town, no sex ed, no access to contraceptives, and a religion built around guilt, repression, and shame equals babies at 15 years old historically.
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ehhhhhhwatevs1 day ago
+186
And working offshore is really good pay for a young guy without a lot of good choices job-wise. Very hard work, tough being away from home, but it can be a ticket to a stable life for a very young family like that.
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Stompnutz1 day ago
+54
A big message the GOP is hammering is that we don't have nearly enough teenage pregnancies, as if that is a problem we need to solve as a society.
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RobutNotRobot22 hr ago
+19
They want the whole country to be like the south.
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AnonymousInMI1 day ago
+68
It’s Alabama. Abortion is illegal and unless these young girls go out of state they have no choice but to conceive.
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Neravariine20 hr ago
+13
Crisis pregnancy centers are also everywhere. They lie to pregnant teens so they won't abort. Once the baby is here and the resources they lied about don't exist...the damage has already been done.
Giving a baby up for adoption is also seen shameful.
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dylanx3001 day ago
+67
“Conceive” is not the word you were going for. “No choice but to conceive” would be r***.
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NeenerNeaner23 hr ago
+17
Any information about a possible partner/spouse of Lisa? Can't imagine the fear ya'll are going through if this ends up being something seemingly random/burglary motivated.
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Fit_Lawfulness_68151 day ago
+3598
So the 17 year old was pregnant and had an 18 month old - very young to already have a child and another on the way. The boyfriend of the 17 year old was working off shore. The mom and 12 year old boy had their tied and throats slit. The dad is the one who found them and reported to the police. The house was rummaged through, too. Article below goes into more detail.
Damn, fucked up world we live in.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/southwest-alabama-triple-homicide-targeted-attack/amp/
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rainblowfish_1 day ago
+991
Thank you for this! I saw her name as Lisa Ferguson, but this article has her listed as Lisa Fields, so it didn't come up for me when I was looking into the story. This is much more informative than the one I posted!
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Fit_Lawfulness_68151 day ago
+953
I was curious after reading the 12 yr old boy had this throat slit. I get not wanting to leave witnesses but slitting a 12 yr olds throat is so fucked up. Like what did a 12 year old do other than being at the wrong place at the wrong time?
Hopefully they catch the killer.
I genuinely feel for the infant, one day when the infant grows up and finds out about this, that’s going to be a whole can of worms to unpack.
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VanessaAlexis1 day ago
+349
The only reason I could see them doing that is because he could identify them. And I say them because we don't know if there was multiple people that did those or not.
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TheBuddha77722 hr ago
+131
He could have been killed first to get the mother to reveal the location of whatever the perp was looking for.
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Binksyboo22 hr ago
+104
Wow, that’s a horrifying thought and might actually make sense for why the first two had more gruesome deaths, perhaps in order to illicit something from the final victim.
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Throne-Eins1 day ago
+395
Killing witnesses is usually done very quickly. Often with a firearm or a blow to the head. Slitting someone's throat is deeply personal and very hands-on, and while the father of the young child has been cleared of any involvement, I'm putting money on another family member. Who else would harbor that level of hate towards them?
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Persimmon-Mission1 day ago
+294
The link posted above said the house was known for previous drug activity and the house was in disarray, like someone was looking for something.
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ArsenalinAlabama342823 hr ago
+241
Yep. This was 100% drugs and that's it. Terrible that the son ended up as a victim.
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angelmnemosyne19 hr ago
+70
Even when it's about drugs, it's still not normal to see a middle schooler getting their throat cut.
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jeneric8417 hr ago
+28
Tell that to a tweaker with paranoid delusions/hallucinations that hasn’t slept in days.
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TwoPoundzaSausage22 hr ago
+192
What's especially chilling is the fact that the 17-year-old was shot. That means that the assailant had the ability to kill the older woman and the 12-year-old quickly, but chose not to.
Unless the assailant only had 1 bullet, but that's some Barney Fife-ass shit if that's the case.
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Curly_Shoe22 hr ago
+65
It's a weird way of sparing the pregnant one - not letting her live, but sparing her the cruelty of slitting the throat open. Damned, what a World we live in.
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njf8516 hr ago
+16
Or they wanted to quiet her quickly if she was hysterical (which likely she was, being pregnant and having an 18m old to protect). I hate to think of what this poor family went through, just horrifying
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Own_Faithlessness76921 hr ago
+34
Could have been about the noise, gunshots are going to get the police to arrive. Fine for the final victim when you’re leaving but not if you have more things to do.
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Standard__Condition16 hr ago
+3
There’s an article that states it was multiple people who entered the home and tied them up in separate rooms.
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AbradolfLincler0821 hr ago
+27
It's especially fucked up when you learn the 17yr old girl was shot to death while the others got the brutality of a knife
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GreatEmperorAca1 day ago
+17
Dexter origin story
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DeaderthanZed1 day ago
+339
Sometimes the most dangerous part of using/dealing drugs is not the drugs themselves but the people you have to associate with.
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jonestownkid221 day ago
+226
Thank you for saying this.
This is absolute truth.
My dad was in the “trade” and he was murdered the night my sister and I should have been there.
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dontsellmeadog18 hr ago
+24
That's haunting. I'm so sorry.
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Mrtoughpants1 day ago
+179
That's enough internet for today 😔
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Straightwad1 day ago
+83
Really hope they catch whoever did that, what a horrific crime.
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yesiamveryhigh1 day ago
+50
>Article below goes into more detail.
No thanks.
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ThinCrusts23 hr ago
+22
Are the women and boy related to the pregnant teen?
Where is the 18 month old baby in all of that?
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boopbaboop20 hr ago
+25
Her mom and brother.
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Express-Citron-638721 hr ago
+23
When I was doing business in the South, I would look at the pictures on the desk and say, your children are so cute, and the women would reply to a fault, "Those are my grandchildren, I started young". Must have been a very young start...lol. Loretta Lynn had her first at 14 and I think she was a grandmother by 28 or 29?
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martapap1 day ago
+29
from what I saw the Mom's husband was working off shore in Alaska. Were both working off shore?
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ArsenalinAlabama342823 hr ago
+16
I believe so.
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RODjij1 day ago
+48
Its often the spouse in these type of incidents, sometimes one of the neighbors.
Hope it's not the father but its happened quite often.
Edit. Mentioned already but sorry I mean the father of the 17yo and spouse of the killed wife.
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Jendi20161 day ago
+67
It's not the father. He was working offshore.
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RODjij1 day ago
+48
Sorry I meant the father of the 17yo.
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ArsenalinAlabama342823 hr ago
+30
He was in Alaska when it happened.
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nopenonotatall1 day ago
+37
my first thought as well. i was reading crime statistics recently and something like 78% of standalone murders are someone known the the victim. and i’ve read countless crimes where the person who “discovers” the bodies is also the killer. but he could also be innocent and just brutally lost his family. i guess we’ll see
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ArsenalinAlabama342823 hr ago
+6
From what I heard from friends of victims' he was working in Alaska when this happened.
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docker_linux1 day ago
+114
This is proof God doesn't exist
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Ameren23 hr ago
+47
Well, it's evidence against a tri-omni God (omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent). Most gods worshipped throughout history were never all three; if you take away any of the three, you solve the problem of evil.
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malapriapism4hours22 hr ago
+12
Tragically, there’s no shortage of such evidence.
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BetLeast49431 day ago
+183
I'd say it's proof people are evil and have free will
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Alive-Resolution78441 day ago
+92
I'd say it's not proof of anything.
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Pei-toss1 day ago
+147
If there is a god he's an insufferable a****** that does not deserve praise.
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docker_linux1 day ago
+42
People are evil, but this shit is unacceptable if God exists
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KoosGoose1 day ago
+1359
It is not suspected to be a domestic dispute. No suspects. An 18-month old was found physically unharmed at the scene. The house had been rummaged through.
Jesu.
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brainkandy871 day ago
+485
Reminds me of one intro of Six Feet Under that always haunted me. Burglars tied up the homeowners, went through the house, and then just executed them despite not really needing to.
The killer(s) could’ve shot all three but gave two of them far crueler deaths with their throats being cut. Horrific; those poor people.
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ventodivino1 day ago
+127
Shooting is loud
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judgejuddhirsch1 day ago
+41
Or Capote in In Cold Blood
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Creph_1 day ago
+36
I read that book on a recommendation with no knowledge of the author or his closeness to one of the killers.
After I finished it, I brought up that the only thing I didn’t like was that he painted one of the two men in a weirdly sympathetic light and she was like “you don’t know? That’s like the whole intrigue” and pointed me toward the movie.
So fucked up.
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dontsellmeadog18 hr ago
+3
I barely remember anything from that show, but this intro sticks in my mind decades later.
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DeaderthanZed1 day ago
+112
Which was a strange thing to say since it’s almost always a personal/domestic issue. Even if house was rummaged through as sometimes the perp wants to make it look like a home invasion.
I’m not seeing anything that indicates this family was wealthy (video from other article looks like a manufactured home) so as rare as home invasion robbery/murders are not sure why this family would be targeted. Unless someone was dealing drugs or into crypto?
Maybe the police know from the boyfriend that something specific was taken.
Edit- other article says there was drug activity at the home in the past. Yup, now that makes more sense.
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martapap1 day ago
+77
They weren't wealthy but I saw on FB where the mom who was killed bought a brand new Ford truck. Even something that simple could make people jealous or assume they have money.
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trackdaybruh1 day ago
+37
Someone commented that the boyfriend works in an oil rig. It could be the suspect(s) thought the boyfriend was making 6 figures and was rich (by their standards), so they probably thought he had hoards of cash stashed somewhere in the house.
Did they steal the truck or did they leave that behind?
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martapap1 day ago
+18
I dont know what happened to the truck. But the mom's husband is on facebook and he also was out of town. He was working in the Arctic. Not sure what kind of job he has maybe fishing. That also makes decent money and people who work those kind of jobs are more likely imo to have cash in the house.
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dylanholmes2221 day ago
+7
It’s usually someone close to them, hopefully they can figure it out soon
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ChocolateChingus1 day ago
+473
Reminds me of the [Cheshire Home Invasion Murders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Cheshire,_Connecticut_murders) where a home invasion went sadistically wrong.
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financequestionsacct21 hr ago
+95
I lived through a home invasion when I was home alone with my 2-year-old and 10-week-old. It's the scariest thing I have ever been through. I thought I was going to be murdered. It took a long time in therapy to feel safe at home again.
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nikkohli20 hr ago
+30
That’s honestly been my biggest fear since I was about 8 years old. I hope you have found some peace since then.
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MNWNM1 day ago
+202
I absolutely love horror movies but can't watch home invasion movies because they're just too real. I tried to watch the original Funny Games and just couldn't (I know it was made to critique horror movies but it's still unpleasant to watch).
People scare me way more than any monster could.
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SketchyDoor22 hr ago
+65
The Strangers really upset me.
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reddituser06221 hr ago
+16
Well that one’s actually true... so maybe it should?
ETA: the strangers really bothers me too, still to this day
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NullOfUndefined20 hr ago
+29
The “true” part of that story is that there were people going around asking “is here?” But it was a cover to see who was home so they could burglarize the house. There were no murderers in masks killing at random.
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martapap1 day ago
+166
It reminds me more of this case [https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article312083237.html](https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article312083237.html) A family was murdered by a person who worked for UPS, and while the person was off duty, they came back and was looking for something and ended up killing the 3 adults, and they left the littlest kids alive.
In that case though the dad who was killed was a known drug dealer.
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qwertyum1108961 day ago
+30
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/woman-paralyzed-in-montco-home-invasion-that-left-son-dead-testifies-in-court/4239419/?amp=1 similar but the shot family was completely unrelated to the intended target except for a misread address
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VanessaAlexis21 hr ago
+6
There's a video of the entire thing happening too because the couple had cameras in their home. It was everywhere when it first happened. It is horrific. The children are so scared.
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ripp66720 hr ago
+7
Billions of years of evolution just to end up being the scum of the earth. Makes your blood boil.
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mshab3561 day ago
+6
I remember this. So fucked up.
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Seizmiiic17 hr ago
+3
I'm confused. Why did the cops not immediately go to the house and get the perps if wife told the bank teller what was going on?
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kittykatsrulemyworld21 hr ago
+167
Investigators believe there could be multiple perpetrators at this time because the victims were all in different rooms and tied up. Just horrible. FYI, this article is more graphic than the one from OP.
[Link to Article](https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/pregnant-teen-her-mother-and-little-brother-killed-in-alabama/507-b1de4c45-ec2a-4f94-8e53-e339ec4f1072)
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HiDDENKiLLZ19 hr ago
+29
Holy f***. Thats a brutal read.
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k_realtor15 hr ago
+14
Most suspects of home invasions know the victims or related. Investigate friends and relatives for red flags 🚩
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VanessaAlexis1 day ago
+889
That poor 18 month old all alone for hours after probably already witnessing all that. No diaper change or food or anything while her family just lays there murdered.
It feels like every day is an article of a family dying or a child dying or there's some kind of horrible trauma. This entire world is feeling unbearable.
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sivez971 day ago
+583
Yeah, it’s actually really fortunate that the girl’s boyfriend noticed something was off due to his phone notifications and asked his dad to check it out. Who knows how long the baby could’ve gone undiscovered if he hadn’t.
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reciprocatingocelot11 hr ago
+5
There was a case here in the UK recently, not violent, where a toddler starved to death after their single dad had a heart attack and died and no-one found them for nearly 2 weeks.
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changhyun1 day ago
+185
Would she remember witnessing it? For her sake I really hope she's too young to remember. She's already going to have enough trauma to live with without those memories on top. Poor kid.
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AntiCaf1231 day ago
+334
She likely won’t have conscious memories but her body and subconscious WILL remember and this will likely impact her for life 😞
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kati830321 hr ago
+29
So traumatic for that poor baby
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evhan5523 hr ago
+107
Thank you for saying this. I hate when people d******* trauma in babies and toddlers ❤️🙏
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ToastAndASideOfToast21 hr ago
+36
Even without memories, there will be trauma from being in the situation of losing a mother and other family.
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PTSDeedee15 hr ago
+6
This. Trauma affects babies’ brain development.
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moonluna22 hr ago
+39
Babies remember. Maybe not the how or why, but they remember. I asked my toddler 2 year son to "help" decorate for Christmas. He remembered the previous year a specific stuffed animal went into the branches of the Christmas tree. He did the same thing at Easter, he ran to the hard to find Easter egg spot first. If a baby can remember a silly thing like a stuffed animal or an egg from when they were barely one year old, an 18 month old will certainly internalize such a traumatic event. Poor thing.
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boogerybug1 day ago
+43
She may not remember when she’s grown, but she will almost certainly have trauma and reactivity in the short term.
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VanessaAlexis1 day ago
+78
I have two kids and the oldest is three and she remembers a lot of things that I'm shocked that she remembered. I think if the incident is significant enough it can ingrain in your brain. But don't take my word for it or anything.
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Pessimistic-Doctor23 hr ago
+22
Probably will forget what she remembers now though ftr
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MistyMtn42122 hr ago
+18
I'm 54 andI still have memories from when I was about 3. And a "dream" I was telling my dad about (this was maybe 10 years ago) was actually a vacation we took to Virginia Beach about 2 months after my 2nd birthday. It was an interesting conversation. He couldn't believe that I had a dream that was basically a play-by-play of that trip.
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Acceptable_Mushroom21 hr ago
+6
If I remember correctly, I think children's development really kicks in when they're older then 2. I think 18 month old is very young to really have any memory of it. Or even recognize what really happened.
This is a little different but I think there are some studies show that the descendents of war survivors that never experienced the trauma ~~from~~ alike their ancestor does have effects on them.
This probably means that even if you don't remember it, it probably does and could have effects on their psyche etc.
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spinprincess22 hr ago
+7
I think they’re referring to once the kid grows up. It makes sense that she remembers now but it’s very unlikely she will remember anything that happened this young when she grows up
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bj126981 day ago
+116
The body remembers. Trauma is stored. Even pre birth trauma.
When a pregnant woman is beaten, or raped, or verbally abused - that fetus is storing the memory.
This has been proven over and over.
No, there may not be a "conscious" memory.
But the nervous system/brain/body are all keyed up and in "survival mode." And it is "stored."
Medical trauma has the same effect. Living in a war zone, or somewhere that genocide is being acted out. Or being an infant where there is starvation.
This is why we should ALL be looking out for *every one* else on the planet.
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evhan5523 hr ago
+14
Thank you for saying this 🙏❤️
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Forsaken-Party77991 day ago
+46
Something similar happened in the town I grew up in. (Except they knew right away who did it, and why). Dad came to the house and killed his soon to be ex-wife and two daughters. Left his 9 mo grand baby alone, in the house.
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lumberj731 day ago
+14
Are you from Middletown? I know of a very similar story - I had graduated with the older daughter. It happened around Christmas. So incredibly tragic!
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Forsaken-Party77991 day ago
+10
This is that story! My brother in law went to school with baby's mom. It shook the entire town.
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lumberj731 day ago
+9
Wow, small world! And it really did. It happened after I graduated but my mom used to deliver mail in that neighborhood and she called me to tell me and to ask if I knew the girls. I wasn't close friends by any means but the oldest was really sweet and I was heartbroken to find out what had been happening. It just goes to show you that you never really know what someone's going through. Ugh. I'm glad that monster is still behind bars.
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Hades_Gamma22 hr ago
+18
This is happening at a *far* less common rate, year after year. There's over 8 **billion** people on the planet.
You are simply hearing about the few occurrences happening more often. When it happened more often the access to information was far lessened.
It's an illusion. The Earth has never even come close to as peaceful as it is now. By every single measurable metric. Non debatable
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VanessaAlexis21 hr ago
+10
The problem is in the past 3 days a man killed eight children. Teenagers died in a mall shooting. These people were found stabbed with their throat slit and shot. A mother here just lost two of her kids at a gas station shooting. An explosion in a house killed a mother and her five kids.
Even on my local news there's like nothing positive it's just depressing. It's like all the news stations want to focus on is the sad stuff.
And is the earth peaceful? We are in war in like all the continents. We have more slaves today than we ever have had ever. Global warming is going to destroy people.
I wish I could have optimism but it's just hard to now.
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ToastAndASideOfToast21 hr ago
+3
Even if the statistics give support, a single incidence stains the image of living in a peaceful wonderland. It testifies that we have not achieved that purity of life.
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laguna11261 day ago
+45
Pretty sure that’s Dexter Morgan’s backstory
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ApprehensiveStrut22 hr ago
+6
Sadly these kinds of these have always happened just with social media and the news it’s not just local news anymore :/
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HasGreatVocabulary20 hr ago
+6
my friend's kid was 16 months old last I met them all, and my god I was so surprised at how much they can understand at that age. Especially when it comes to reading the emotions in the room, getting stressed and upset when adults seem to be talking about something in very serious tone with each other etc.
This news is very sad.
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NOMOKRATOR1 day ago
+13
I feel the same way. It’s really awful.
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bb-angel1 day ago
+14
Yes we have a big problem of men killing their whole families
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Fettnaepfchen1 day ago
+74
So sad! F****** tragedy, I hope they RIP.
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stoopididiotface1 day ago
+380
I love how people very rarely ask questions and jump to shit like "welp it was probably drugs," "uh oh, they were running with bad people."
Evil people do evil things. These murders feel personal and/or cold hearted. It's just evil.
EDIT: people are getting offended over using the f****** word "evil."
What. The. F***.
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unhiddenninja1 day ago
+84
Even if drugs were involved/the motivation, I don't think that would be a reason to be dismissive of the horror that occured here.
I agree with you.
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Persimmon-Mission1 day ago
+66
The linked article states the house had been known to have previous drug incidents and that it had been rummaged through as if someone was looking for something.
Sometimes there are reasons people suspect these things
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axxegrinder1 day ago
+47
And good people make mistakes. Every time I read a story like this I give myself some grace with my good life choices because anyone with kids.. could happen.
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Supernova_Soldier1 day ago
+37
Holy shit! They need to catch the killer(s) soon. Terrible, terrible news
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no_one_likes_u1 day ago
+220
So the older woman and boy had their throats cut and the teen girl was shot. House was searched.
I wonder if it’s a situation of the teen girl being involved with something and the killers trying to get her to tell her where something in the house was by killing the older woman and boy, then her.
Seems odd they wouldn’t shoot them all if there was a gun there. And police saying they don’t think this was a domestic thing.
But they did the leave the baby alone. Fucked up world.
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fiendishrabbit1 day ago
+272
The 18 month old was left alive. My guess is that the perpetrators just killed anyone that was old enough to identify them.
P.S: Note that guns are loud, but less personal than a knife. Again, speculation. But it's possible that someone hesitated about cutting the throat of a pregnant girl and they (or someone else with them) decided to go with a louder and less personal method.
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talktotheak471 day ago
+63
I think it makes more sense to assume it was multiple intruders/murderers. It’s incredibly rare for one person to use multiple forms of violence to murder people in a home invasion scenario. You could be right about to motive, but I personally don’t think the different forms of murder points to a motive at all.
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justjoshingu1 day ago
+28
You never know. Gun could have jammed. They could have had the mom and 12 yr old and killed them and teen surprised them . She could have tried to run and almost made it. Like a million different things that hopefully evidence will figure out
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ishka_uisce23 hr ago
+6
This feels cartel-ish. Horrible.
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wihannez1 day ago
+52
Jesus that’s grim. Sounds like some cartel shit tbh.
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HannibalCake22 hr ago
+15
If it was a cartel they wouldn’t have even left the baby alive. Those guys are a different level of sadistic
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mayhemandqueso22 hr ago
+13
Maybe they didnt know there was a baby? Asleep in another room?
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Global_Exercise142622 hr ago
+64
Sounds like the teen girl was the target. She was shot but her mother and brother had their throats slit. They brought zip ties and other stuff which means this was planned. Might be a family member, might be a friend or someone that lives close by. This seems personal and targeted. Usually if the house is in disarray and nothing is taken it means they wanted it to seem like a robbery but it wasnt. This is more than likely a friend or family member. Seems like it was planned. Police will catch the person.
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alethea_21 hr ago
+43
But knives are more personal than guns.
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teh-butterfly21 hr ago
+19
Was just thinking that. They don't mention how she was shot, but with the other modes of death, it seems like zip-tied, taunted, and then she was made to watch as they were murdered, before they shot her. Wouldn't be surprised if they shot her facing her to see her face. This is someone MAD who HATED her or her boyfriend. Like what in the world, she was **17** who the f*** found her to be their mortal enemy.
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ZaharaSararie20 hr ago
+9
This makes me wonder if there's protocol to protect babies or child survivors of murder, especially when they lose their families. Are they ever temporarily hidden or have their names changed? It's terrifying to imagine their future regardless.
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queefcritic21 hr ago
+15
That's some BTK type shit.
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AbyssFren22 hr ago
+7
Whoever did this is screwed, welcome to 2026, ring cam and flock has your number, even if you left your iPhone at home. A tragedy, but this case will be cracked fast.
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Miserable-Command68217 hr ago
+10
I mean didnt Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper practically get away with it?
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_mully_21 hr ago
+7
Sad. May they rest in peace.
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Interesting-Music43917 hr ago
+8
First article I came across today. F*** me. Who in the f*** does this shit to kids?
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InourbtwotamI17 hr ago
+3
A true subhuman
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WeebHoe116 hr ago
+6
They left the 18 month old...they shot the heavily pregnant woman instead of stabbing. Why?
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vtsunshine8316 hr ago
+5
Kind of reminds me of the guy that lured the family out and they brought the baby. He didn’t harm the baby but dropped her off somewhere. Wasn’t that over drugs?
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FacingHardships20 hr ago
+4
Why did I read that article. So damn sad. Absolutely terrifying
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WorkPlaceSafe22 hr ago
+7
Reminds me of this case from Virginia years ago
2 Young Children Left Alone for Days at Scene of Triple Murder: https://share.google/mBL3FGBrDYwAjsV9B
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shoka40920 hr ago
+3
Holy some BTK shit and no suspects that is very scary. I pray to God they find a lead and find whoever did this sickening act.
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Quiet_Classroom_294814 hr ago
+3
The young mother had her first baby at 15?
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Sunscratch13 hr ago
+3
It happened in Alabama, so totally possible
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PassSenior919713 hr ago
+3
Moms boyfriend was arrested with 71 lbs of meth valued at over 2 million, neighbors say it’s definitely a drug house.
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ragnaroksunset22 hr ago
+9
The amount of people in these comments who can't do math and are rushing for the pitchforks pretty much explains everything historically wrong with civilization.
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