>The deputy got out of his vehicle, pulled out his gun and the suspect then threw the knife down, "giving up," the sheriff said.
This should be allowed to weigh heavily against the inevitable insanity defense they are going to try. It's so strange how these violent killers always target much weaker people, and seem perfectly cogent and logical when threatened with equal and greater violence.
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AbanoMex6 days ago
+107
yeah, there have been many of these type of killings, where the attackers seem to be "Psycho", but its all an act because as soon as they get punched, or hit by a bullet, or even threatened by someone bigger then they stop the Psycho-persona and act all normal and regretful or pleading mercy.
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Bread_kun6 days ago
+20
Sadly there are quite a few people who would legitimately do the most heinous actions if they weren't under the threat of instantly getting the police to arrest or kill them in response.
The kinda fuckin weirdo that would gladly stab someone in the throat because they got a 'disrespectful glance' or something.
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TyrroxApr 4, 2026
+188
I'm not sure, the article says when the officer pulled his gun, the guy immediately dropped his knife and gave up. That kind of immediate processing and reaction is tough to do if you are otherwise mentally impaired. It makes it even stranger given his background and family
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CopainChevalierApr 4, 2026
+10
Holy shit, their post got deleted. Was the top post actually some d*** actually trying to justify this?
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KimberlyWexlersFootApr 4, 2026
+7
Judging by the other replies, they probably said the person was off their balls on meth.
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Tyrrox6 days ago
+7
They didn't have a crazy take. They correctly pointed out the guy lived close by with a wife and kid and had no other prior history with law enforcement, and how typically that would mean the guy either had a mental break or was on drugs.
I agree with that assessment, except I found the dichotomy between his erratic behavior before the murder and immediate rational response to be a bit strange and not something I would expect to see from someone who otherwise isn't in a rational state.
Based on another person's response talking about a different article, it sounds like he had a longer history of what his neighborhood identified as mental health issues than this article identified. Which would explain a lot more.
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jadeoracleApr 4, 2026
+53
A different article doesn't mention a wife and kids, says he instead lived with his parents. And neighbors said:
>"We've always thought maybe he was a little troubled," said one of Francilus' neighbors. He asked not to be identified. He says Francilus was very quiet, rarely spoke, did not work and lived with his parents and a sister, who's in college.
>He says they would see Francilus walking around the neighborhood, sometimes at 3 or 4 in the morning and he would sometimes lay down in his driveway, fully clothed.
>"Everyone here, we all are a little concerned with some of his behaviors, but I don't think any of us felt as if his behavior would escalate to that. Weird, yes, but not to the point where we think he would have done what he did," he explained.
>This neighbor says he did not feel Francilus was violent and never saw him get angry.
>"Maybe you'd see him talking to himself, but that would be the extent of it. He never raised his voice to anybody here," he said.
VIA CBS12
So mental health is likely a factor.
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Impossible-Fig-8463Apr 4, 2026
+53
What kinda drug would even do this?
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NapoleonBlownapart9Apr 4, 2026
+109
Mid-20’s is also when a lot of the awful mental illnesses kick into overdrive, become apparent suddenly, and wreak havoc. Unless his family is ok with it it’s pretty hard to be tweaked out or nodding off around family and not get caught. Who knows, it’s all shitty.
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ViolettaQuesoApr 4, 2026
+1
Totally true.
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bussoundApr 4, 2026
+37
Psychotropic drugs can do this. I was nearly psychotic on Prozac when I took it for depression.
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FallouttgrrlApr 4, 2026
+35
I know a person who used ambien recreationally and would do absolutely insane shit
We had to have him arrested once for going after us with his gun and a power drill.
About ten percent of folks who use it as intended can go into a blackout fugue state - my sister would order hundreds of dollars in scented candles
And if you deliberately put yourself into that dream state, it's impossible to know what you'll do.
The guy I mentioned had previously dismantled as much of his car engine as he could, sorting it into baggies throughout the house.
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Zackeous42Apr 4, 2026
+17
I took once Ambien briefly as prescribed and I woke up the following day noticing that I messaged my friend on MySpace that I’d shave her long curly hair and glue them to her eyebrows when she’s sleeping if she didn’t watch a West Memphis Three documentary I was recommending.
I had ZERO recollection, felt like such an ass and apologized.
I can’t imagine dealing with worse from one of those blackouts!
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Spire_CitronApr 4, 2026
+1
Damn, blacked out you is creative.
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Lower_Service_2047Apr 4, 2026
+9
We really chalkin this up to “Prozac can cause someone to do this”?
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AceOfPlaguesApr 4, 2026
+7
No - but psychosis can, and psychosis can be caused by 100s of drugs as well as mental illness - they are just pointing out something as common as prozac can cause a mental episode in someone with the right underlying neurobiology.
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TheVisageofSloth6 days ago
+2
Prozac doesn’t really cause psychosis. It certainly can cause mania in bipolar people, but that’s a very different clinical picture and people in mania still have cognitive function.
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bussoundApr 4, 2026
+23
Uh no. I’m saying that there’s lots of drugs that can make people psychotic.
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Spire_CitronApr 4, 2026
+1
A lot of things can do a lot of things if they happen to mix badly with someone's existing mental health situation.
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Impossible-Fig-8463Apr 4, 2026
-8
But psychotic doesn’t mean doing what this man did
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goomarbitchApr 4, 2026
+31
Psychotic can mean many different things for different people, the symptoms manifest in a multitude of ways. Sometimes, yes, violently.
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ViolettaQuesoApr 4, 2026
+1
And if you aren’t sleeping for whatever reason, you can slip into psychosis, hallucinate, etc. and that alone can trigger you to feel things as unsafe.
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TheVisageofSloth6 days ago
+1
No? Psychosis very much has a strict clinical definition and the parent comment is very wrong. You are either psychotic, or you aren’t and Prozac doesn’t cause psychosis.
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AceOfPlaguesApr 4, 2026
+6
While it isn't common, prozac can cause psychosis - one reason we don't typically prescribe it to people with bipolar.
I am fully in favor of psychotropics, thier anecdote seems relevant - psychotic reactions are typically outliers and not the norm for most drugs with the potential.
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ViolettaQuesoApr 4, 2026
+5
Bingo. Bipolar 2 often gets misdiagnosed as depression and then sometimes anxiety. The SSRIs for bipolar disease can actually trigger mania.
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Time-Industry-1364Apr 4, 2026
-3
Meth, and spice in particular.
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blacktransampinkguyApr 4, 2026
+216
This happened in Stuart, FL
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anxietysoupApr 4, 2026
+101
It’s really awful that I thought this was referring to the one in Ft Myers yesterday until I saw your comment
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2026/04/02/suspect-in-southwest-florida-homicide-on-the-run-authorities-seek-info/89435901007/
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bruhhmann6 days ago
+16
Yea they were outside my house looking for him. Talked to the cops it was crazy
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ith228Apr 4, 2026
+402
The word “violent” is in quotes because it’s a quote taken from the police referring to the nature of the attack…talk about a literacy crisis.
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wny_anonymous6 days ago
+17
Glad they caught him, because what the f*** why would you randomly bludgeon a 70 year old woman to death??
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Greener-dayzApr 4, 2026
+109
Some people are demonic. Imagine getting to that women’s age and that’s how you go. This world is terrible.
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hannibalpalaceApr 4, 2026
+121
What a horrible monster to do that to a woman in her 70s. Hope the dog is okay. It didn’t say what happened to the dog in the article.
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mark5hsApr 4, 2026
+97
Read the article. It was done by a "suspicious" man in a "quiet" community.
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shrimpslippersApr 4, 2026
+112
The quotation marks are there because they are direct quotes from someone, as opposed to paraphrasing. Because journalism.
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xtremeradness6 days ago
+17
Is there a pattern to these "random acts of violence"?
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ChillFratBro6 days ago
+25
People with enough of a track record that they definitely needed to be institutionalized a long time ago.
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amioth5 days ago
+2
Besides men?
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tarareidstarotreadin4 days ago
+3
You might want to narrow that down to a less absurd category if you want anyone other than those in your misandry cult to take you seriously.
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amioth4 days ago
+1
Misandry cult 😂😂😂
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tarareidstarotreadin4 days ago
+2
I don’t even necessarily blame you, most people don’t realize til it’s too late. Dead giveaway is acting from the unhealed place that got you sucked in in the first place, which is a valid feeling but leads you to a wrong place, in my opinion.
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yellowcloak3 days ago
+1
Yeah, they're in Florida.
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Jwbst32Apr 4, 2026
+45
Send in the national guard
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MilkiestMaestroApr 4, 2026
+65
Send in the Army Corps of Engineers to figure out how to line up enough dynamite to finally separate Florida for good
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Fearless-Leading-882Apr 4, 2026
+13
I'm a fifth generation Floridian and I understand.
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WhiteDudeInBronxApr 4, 2026
+9
Also Tom from MySpace!
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ScholarOfTwilight3 days ago
+1
To quote something said to another Floridian before their separation "I think it's time..."
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Jay__Riemenschneider6 days ago
+4
Competent democrats would target Florida the way republicans target California.
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Mrmojorisincg6 days ago
+3
Nah, let the Red states rip themselves apart as far as I care anymore
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Jay__Riemenschneider6 days ago
+5
But that isn't happening.
Drive a wedge and a focus on making them infight.
But nothing is done. Dems just watch and *hope* something happens.
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Fluid-Cranberry1755Apr 4, 2026
+23
Some kind of psychosis?
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gonefree26 days ago
-9
Why go there? More like a terrorist small attack. Just like the previous terrorist small attack. And the next one that will be worse.
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petmoo236 days ago
+5
What makes you think it was terrorism?
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swearinginoApr 4, 2026
+11
Just another day in Florida.
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[deleted]Apr 4, 2026
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memberzsApr 4, 2026
+39
Cops are not judge jury and executioner. Do you want to live in a judge dredd world, because that's where that mentality takes us.
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Spire_CitronApr 4, 2026
+139
It says he dropped the knife when the officer pulled his gun. Did you want him to just execute the guy anyway?
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Gr33nman460Apr 4, 2026
+78
Cops tend to execute people doing nothing at all
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BaiMoGuiApr 4, 2026
+18
Oh wow, is it really common here in the US? Do you want to guess how many reported incidences there are of a cop killing an unarmed person in 2025?
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duskporcupine6 days ago
+4
98 confirmed, which is still way too many?
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sonicdraco6 days ago
+4
1-2 times a day******
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CuckBuster336 days ago
+8
He obviously shouldn't but if he did I wouldn't complain
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CopainChevalierApr 4, 2026
+1
I’ll take the downvotes.
Yes, I do. I’m so tired of these people getting some jail time I get to pay for. Maybe they get out and kill more people later! Yay!
If we absolutely need to let the guy live until we make sure he did the crime? Fine. If we know he did it? Kill him. No court, no jail. No prolonged waste of time and money.
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CottagecheesecurlsApr 4, 2026
+53
Police murdering people they shouldn’t doesn’t justify murdering anyone. A surrendered criminal gets arrested. Killing someone who is no longer a threat and can be peacefully taken into custody is not the job of police and shouldn’t be the expectation.
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gringo_escobarApr 4, 2026
+109
Americans when police don't default to killing people: 😒
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zombiifissh6 days ago
+2
I think the 😒 is more about the double standard of who gets to live and who gets killed on the spot, especially when comparing what they did to get killed on the spot
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ProbablyMyJugsApr 4, 2026
+67
He surrendered. The officer was right not to shoot him if the man is instantly surrendering. In America, you get a trial. Sorry, extrajudicial executions are unconstitutional.
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Aazadan6 days ago
+2
Ya, this is the right outcome here. It's more a shock that the outcome happened given the state of policing in the US.
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CottagecheesecurlsApr 4, 2026
+47
So do you want unnecessary police violence or no? Wouldn’t this be a time to highlight the action of not doing an extrajudicial killing as a good thing? One tragic miscarriage of justice doesn’t justify another.
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CottagecheesecurlsApr 4, 2026
+22
I mean the ridiculousness of Alex Pretti and Renee Goods murders are self evident and will always look unconscionable when compared to officers actually doing their job. You could compare it to someone being arrested for petty thievery and it’d still be ridiculous because there is no justification for what was done to them. It is still not a justification for killing a surrendering criminal who should face trial.
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zecknaalApr 4, 2026
+20
I am not sure a trigger happy cop was going to give this one a happier ending.
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Decent-Tune-92486 days ago
+7
Contrary to popular belief, police officers don’t get to arbitrarily decide who lives and dies. We have due process in this country.
I don’t care how evil someone is, if anyone does not get due process, then, effectively, no one does.
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PM_ME_YOUR_TATERTOTApr 4, 2026
+6
Well, it sounded like he was in the middle of psychotic break. Horrible for everyone.
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SilvershanksApr 3, 2026
+27
Why is "violent" in quotations? Is the violence of the stabbing alleged. 🤔
Edit: Um... how are people not understanding this is a joke? ↑↑↑
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ProbablyMyJugsApr 4, 2026
+23
Quotes also indicate *quoting* something that was actually said by someone
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ol_knucksApr 3, 2026
+159
In headlines, news organizations put specific words in single quotes when it’s part of a quote from someone of note (in this case the police).
It’s standard journalistic practice, scan any reputable news site right now and you’ll likely see it a few times.
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thispartyrulesApr 4, 2026
+20
Woman stabbed to death while walking dog in Florida in random, 'totally whack' attack
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Terrible_Shelter_345Apr 4, 2026
+14
Literacy really is declining these days. It’s sad.
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CatholicSquareDanceApr 4, 2026
+16
there's no need to quote just the word "violent" here, though. it's self evidently "violent." that's not something you need to pull from someone of note. you usually pull in a quote for something that is 1) less facially obvious and 2) adds context that would not be known if not for the source of the quote (i.e., something the paper may not have proven independently, but that has been asserted by an authority).
we do not need the police to tell us the stabbing was violent. "random" would be a much better word to put into quotes, had the police actually said it. but the police didn't say that, so this title both has a completely unnecessary word in quotes, and also asserts something that the police merely implied and have not confirmed or overtly stated.
bad journalism, tbh.
edit: even "extremely violent" together would have made some sense, "horrendous," something like that, which they also said, but you don't need a police officer to tell you that a stabbing was simply "violent" much like you don't need a meteorologist to tell you that a downpour was "wet."
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nashkara6 days ago
+4
I'm 100% positive it's written that way to deflect any potential future libel lawsuit. They can simply say "we reported on what the law-enforcement officials said. We used quotes to make that obvious."
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just_posting_this_ch6 days ago
+2
It's not what law enforcement said. Also, as the person you replied to said, You don't have to quote wet if they said water is wet.
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nashkara6 days ago
+1
By throwing quotes around it they are trying to shift blame/ownership of the words to another party.
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dandelionelic6 days ago
+8
It's not a joke when 90% of the other comments are saying the same thing.
Literacy is dead. It's a quote. It's journalism. Good f****** god, yall.
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TheHobbylist6 days ago
+1
Don’t worry, it’ll only get worse as everything gets replaced with AI and kids aren’t taught how to write anymore
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OneSeaworthiness7768Apr 4, 2026
+15
Imagine not knowing the purpose of *quotation* marks when it’s in the damn name.
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pchlsterApr 3, 2026
+20
One of those nonviolent stabbings, I suppose? I think they call those acupuncture.
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[deleted]Apr 4, 2026
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OnTheList-YouTubeApr 4, 2026
alleged?*
It's a question, right?
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Zech086 days ago
+1
Ima guess theres history of issues.
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SaltyEarth79056 days ago
+4
But San Francisco, New York, Chicago…
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Ok_Cheetah_62514 days ago
+1
Why is "violent" in quotes?
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Floreat_democratiaApr 4, 2026
-8
Red states have always been more violent than blue states. News at 10.
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1917he6 days ago
Why is "violent" the only word in the title that's in quotes? It's the one of the few objectively correct descriptors being used. You don't stab someone to death without some sort of violence.
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alsinaal6 days ago
+1
Read the article, there are awkward quotes all over the place.
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96puppyloverApr 3, 2026
-42
Sorry to be that person. But, is the dog okay? I read the article and it only said she was walking a small dog but no other info.
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SecondSanguinicaApr 4, 2026
+22
Won't somebody think of the heckin pupperino
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CheckMateFluffApr 4, 2026
+8
Oh no.... u/96puppylover is worried about dogs; better downvote them to f****** oblivion. Maybe we do have a literary crisis....
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Floreat_democratia6 days ago
+5
We've got a MAGA bot crisis run by foreign troll farms infecting this and other subs.
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96puppyloverApr 4, 2026
+12
Yeah, I can’t help it. I hear “person killed walking dog” and I think of the person AND the dog equally. I care about living things and the status of the other living thing wasn’t mentioned- thus a puppylover worrying
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CheckMateFluffApr 4, 2026
+3
I know fam, just pointing out the irony of the name, and response to your comment, it's so thick on this one you could cast an irony bar from it. Dogging on the puppy lover for... let me check my notes here... loving puppies, go figure.
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ProbablyMyJugsApr 4, 2026
+1
What does this have to do with literacy?
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Tight-Shallot2461Apr 4, 2026
-4
There HAS to be lead poisoning everywhere in Florida. Or some other contaminant that causes aggression. There's always something like this coming out of Florida
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nashkara6 days ago
+7
Florida has several things that drive news like this.
- Sunshine laws (easy access to news cycle fodder)
- "Good" weather and no state income tax (drives migration)
- Major drug and human trafficking transit (easy access to drugs)
I'm sure there are a bunch of other reasons as well. But we end up collecting crazies from all over and arrests are public record by law.
I *really* need to leave this state.
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rer1125 days ago
+1
Honestly, it’s the first point more than anything. I spent 40+ years in Florida, thinking I lived in the nuttiest place on Earth because of all of the news stories. Then I moved out to western Washington and the crime out here is much worse and much more random, but very little of it makes national news.
In Florida, I never felt unsafe if I just kept to myself and avoided certain areas. In Washington, there are random homicides and violent crimes all the time that never make national news. When we first moved out here, we moved into what we thought was a quiet apartment complex in a suburban neighborhood. This is $2K a month for a 1 bedroom, near a commercial district, walking trails, etc. but we had to move out before our lease ended because of the constant crime there.
In the past three years, I’ve read about two murders and another death-by-cop committed in that complex.
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[deleted]6 days ago
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TylertheFloridaman6 days ago
+3
Basically it's a laws that ensure transparency to the public. In terms of the police, this means details about crimes are getting released a lot sooner compared to other states which makes it easy for news agencies to get them
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Lower-Acanthaceae460Apr 4, 2026
-42
Pretty much sums up Trump's America
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Logitech4873Apr 4, 2026
+4
Human. There's no races or sub-species. We're all the same species. Americans are f****** weird with this shit.
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mido_samaApr 3, 2026
-29
What’s wrong with humans lately.
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thejoefaceApr 4, 2026
+27
Statistically violent crime is down year after year. But starting with the 24 hour news cycle we’re exposed to globally curated news. The most sensational things get the most attention.
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kvlt_ov_personalityApr 3, 2026
+70
It's not a "lately" thing. In the 1200's, Genghis Khan's army would show up outside a city and behead every man, woman, and child if they didn't surrender immediately - sometimes killing hundreds of thousands in a few days. Each soldier was required to execute 24 people. In total, they killed somewhere between 20 and 60 million people.
Now is the best, safest time to be alive in human history.
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GeneAdventurous10136 days ago
You make it sound like the Mongols were a weather event across the whole planet, besides, now is only the "best and safest" for the middle and upper classes in wealthy countries.
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SaecApr 3, 2026
+39
Not much of a student of history, are you?
Edit: thanks for the downvote. You’re welcome to go back in time to really like any time period. Let me know how much better and safer life is during the Great Depression.
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imnotslavicApr 4, 2026
+2
Just because humans have always been violent does not mean we cannot ask why that is, and what steps we can take to further reduce it.
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SaecApr 4, 2026
-2
It’s that way because fundamentally, we are still animals. We act in self interest and preservation just like any other animal out there. Yes we have more logic and reason than most species, but we are still more than capable of doing horrible things to each other. Our history proves that. At no time in history has there ever been periods without some sort of horrible genocide or persecution occurring somewhere on this planet. If you think otherwise, you live in la la land.
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imnotslavicApr 4, 2026
+3
Feel free to re-read my comment.
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SaecApr 4, 2026
+3
And re read mine. No reason to act naive as to why people do bad things. We aren’t some superior species. We are still animals.
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GeneAdventurous10136 days ago
+2
Everything that's eukeryotic is an "animal" friggin dork
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ConstantStatistician6 days ago
+1
Plants are eukaryotic but are not animals.
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[deleted]Apr 4, 2026
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SaecApr 4, 2026
Was wealth inequality and quality of life better when most people were serfs serving a lord or king? Yes we can do better and strive to be better. But quit waxing poetic about a past that didn’t exist as you imagine it.
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blankvoidoidApr 4, 2026
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Stabbed to death, the word violent in quotes, WTF is the matter with florida?
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