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News & Current Events Apr 14, 2026 at 12:18 PM

Xi Says World Order ‘Crumbling Into Disarray’ as War Takes Toll

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Xi Says World Order ‘Crumbling Into Disarray’ as War Takes Toll
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Xi Says World Order ‘Crumbling Into Disarray’ as War Takes Toll
Chinese President Xi Jinping lamented a world in “disarray,” using some of his strongest language yet to describe a collapse of the Western-led international order as he vowed to play a constructive role in the Middle East.

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Zodep 5 days ago +2501
Everyone is blaming Trump, but there’s two other branches of government letting this happen. We’re supposed to have checks and balances. Not free rein. I hold them more culpable than him at this point. They have had opportunities to stop him and just let him keep bringing down our country.
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ockhams-lightsaber 5 days ago +785
Yeah it’s rather impressive to see Americans depicting Trump as the main problem. He is the symptom of a two-party system spiraling into tribalism. Yes of course MAGA is bad, but what created the conditions and context to make them grow ? Impeaching Trump is not going to solve everything, Americans have to think farther and wider.
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Ntroepy 5 days ago +243
>Impeaching Trump is not going to solve everything. 100%! And the DNC’s main position is STILL “*at least we’re not Trump*”. Hillary had it right when she said democrats are the party of “*incremental change*”, not a party of leaders with a bold vision for America. The DNC has always been visionless as they move further and further right to chase the elusive middle without stepping back to ask why has their core working class supporters have largely abandoned the party. (Or, rather, the party abandoning them). The DNC clearly needs their own Project 2026: Take Back America, but it’s nearly impossible to imagine the leadership creating such a vision.
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brutinator 4 days ago +82
> Hillary had it right when she said democrats are the party of “incremental change”, not a party of leaders with a bold vision for America. The DNC had a supermajority for 41 days and managed to pass one of the largest healthcare reform acts in US history, giving 10s of millions of people access to affordable healthcare. Like, I get that they aren't perfect, but the left has ALWAYS been operating with one arm tied behind it's back.
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lasttosseroni 5 days ago +65
T is just the lightning rod, none of this would be happening without GOP support, they are to blame.
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stubundy 4 days ago +25
Everyone in America blaming trump, everyone in the planet blaming America
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terorvlad 4 days ago +38
Nahhh, the world is blaming +50% of the american people. As they say "Leaders are usually a reflection of the people they lead. How can a leader be moral if his people are immoral?". Whether you like it or not, trump is a pretty clean reflection of the people who voted for him. Such a character does not get in power twice without people voting for him.
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Beneficial_Trick6672 4 days ago +39
Trump is just reflecting society. There will be next trumps in the future to finish his work.
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L1E2T3 4 days ago +42
I blame the voters, they elected and enabled him.
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Puttborn 5 days ago +53
Nah, everyone is blaming the USA for this. You all fucked your own shit up.
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Maleficent_Owl_7001 4 days ago +30
What is impressive is that occurred BECAUSE the people were *free* to be as dumb as a box of rocks.
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Yharnam_Blunderbuss 4 days ago +13
Personally, I blame those that enabled all of this... twice... the American population, voters and those who didn't bother to vote. This is all on you.
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unl1988 5 days ago +5256
when your foe is making mistakes, let them.
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Kraien 5 days ago +1146
That’s what Xi said
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OptimalInflation 4 days ago +68
This was beautiful. Michael Scott would be proud.
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catchup4thegoodtimes 4 days ago +73
this deserves an award!
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KnowerOfUnknowable 5 days ago +113
Not when your a****** neighbour in the trailer park shooting up fireworks in the middle of the night totally wasted.
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beefstake 5 days ago +68
Poor Canadians and Mexicans, they don't deserve this shit.
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robtaggart77 5 days ago +28
Honestly, as a CDN I was against walls at the border, now they can't build one fast enough!
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beefstake 5 days ago +27
MAGA might be right for once, Mexico might really pay for the wall. To keep them out of Mexico.
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Available_Leather_10 5 days ago +19
“fireworks” More like Molotov cocktails and dynamite.
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StatisticianSad1995 5 days ago +654
Sun Tzu
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Starscream147 5 days ago +682
“It can only good happen” —Shitz Pantz
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Inuk28 5 days ago +126
The fact that he actually said "nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen" still astounds me. I know he's produced endless dumb statements, but damn
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Musiclover4200 5 days ago +47
Why say lot word when few do trick
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Hoovooloo42 5 days ago +50
God, remember "binders full of women"? "Please clap"? "Can't get fooled again"? I think we owe a lot of sleazy politicians an apology now that we're grading on a curve.
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Syssareth 5 days ago +35
To be fair, "can't get fooled again" was a remarkably fast improvisation from somebody who realized a split second before that he was about to hand his opponents a soundbite of him saying "shame on me." Can't really count that in the same league as the others.
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Hoovooloo42 4 days ago +5
Lol that's very fair
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Progolferwannabe 5 days ago +17
LOL. Thank you for this.
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StingKing456 5 days ago +37
Literally thought you were quoting Michael Scott for a second before remembered where it's actually from. Goodness.
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hazmodan20 5 days ago +45
Don Tzu
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rimshot101 5 days ago +11
"Break your enemy's blockade by blockading their blockade and then celebrate by going to a UFC event." -Don Tzu
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JediCarlSagan 5 days ago +21
Shih-Tzu
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PM_ME_UR_PIKACHU 5 days ago +28
"Enter the 36 chambers" -wu tang
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Talmaska 5 days ago +9
Liquid swords are drawn.
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Chilkoot 5 days ago +27
Napoleon, no? Even then I believe the attestation is debatable.
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cjb3535123 5 days ago +10
You’re correct and I agree on the second point too
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Sportfreunde 5 days ago +190
They call Trump the Nation Builder in Chinese media apparently.....cos he's building up the Chinese nation lol.
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ReserveFormal3910 5 days ago +58
Unfortunately Asia is being affected more in the short term from the oil crisis from this war.
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Teantis 5 days ago +53
China's way better position for this than the rest of us in Asia
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qeadwrsf 5 days ago +22
Larger reserves than rest of Asia. But spend more so when reserves are out its gonna start hurting. Is what I have gathered from my rectangle shaped crystal ball that sometimes tells me lies. Sometimes its telling the truth but people in here tries to convince me its lying.
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LymelightTO 5 days ago +59
That's not "unfortunate", that's the entire reason the US is so blasé about reopening the Strait. Everyone is somewhat hurt by it, but China and Europe are hurt *considerably more* than the US.
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SerLaron 5 days ago +26
As long as oil is freely traded internationally, the prices will rise for the whole world.
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ricecanister 5 days ago +44
delusional. china is hurt a lot less than europe and other asian countries that are supposedly allies to the US. Rising prices hurts everyone of course, including China. But China has all of the tools to weather this storm, unlike most other countries. China benefits indirectly when american alliances are weakened. The Philippines for example, is signing up with China for oil exploration in the south china sea. china is the 6th largest oil producer in the world. China also has a land border with russia, which means a secure oil supply. china has a huge strategic oil reserve. China has large coal resources. And even has tech to convert coal to petrochemicals. china is the biggest source of clean energy technology, everything from vehicles to solar to wind and hydro. This can only increase demand for chinese technology. The chinese economy is also already increasingly transitioning to these technologies for energy, more so than most countries. This also hurts the US a lot more than you let on. Americans are paying higher energy costs directly. And indirectly, Americans will be hurt by increased costs of goods (whether they're domestic or imported, say, from China).
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RepulsiveContract475 5 days ago +10
>And even has tech to convert coal to petrochemicals. That's hardly a new or innovative technology--Germany and UK did it during WW2 almost a hundred years ago. Its also very inefficient and energy-intensive.
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fsactual 5 days ago +9
What about when your biggest trading partner is making mistakes?
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Sweatytubesock 5 days ago +6596
All it took was the wise American voters deciding to put the biggest criminal and moron in human history in power (again) with zero restraints. And everything was all so predictable.
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MomsAreola 5 days ago +2384
With LESS restraint than before. Given immunity and cant be held in check by voters again.
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DillBagner 5 days ago +308
This would be going exactly the same without the supreme court's "immunity" ruling, as no charges would be filed until he's out of power.
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adsmithereens 5 days ago +109
Point taken, but I feel like there's a case to be made that Trump and crew have been emboldened by the ruling, at least if any of them think they might ever lose their power.
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MomsAreola 5 days ago +51
Court is allowing ICE to racially profile. It's beyond emboldened and actively enabling.
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HomelessByCh01ce 5 days ago +33
And more dementia than before.
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MomsAreola 5 days ago +17
Was going to also say both hemispheres of his brain working together would be bipartisan.
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fedroxx 5 days ago +663
See, you just don't understand American Exceptionalism. No one ever said the country had to be exceptionally smart. As it happens, American voters are exceptional. Exceptionally stupid.
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feral0101 5 days ago +315
So far the American voter has been quite insulated from American foreign policy pursuits, no matter how disastrous. That’s what has made them uniquely callous. That’s about to change in the next 5 years
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Ticrotter_serrer 5 days ago +64
We can only hope. Will humility get to them ?
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AscendantJustice 5 days ago +137
No. Because my countrymen have been told through decades of right wing media that all the bad things that happen are everyone else's fault and they lap it up like starving dogs. They want this to happen so badly.
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Glum-Sheepherder-787 5 days ago +5
Absolutely not. Concentration camps are being built already for the scapegoats.
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Navguy012 5 days ago +21
Except, perhaps, the example of 9/11 as THE example of a failure of that insulation.
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Divinicus2nd 5 days ago +17
9/11 actually highlight the insulation…
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lopix 5 days ago +31
I think it is changing right now. At the gas pumps. At farms. Now we just need to hope that some of those MAGAs can start connecting the dots.
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Character_Bug_1862 5 days ago +22
Yep farmers are getting slapped in the d*** according to NPR and there interviews in the industry. Not every farmer is a MAGA of course but the few I know vote R no matter what. This could at least get them to vote against Trump even if they’re stuck in the R hole.
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lopix 5 days ago +56
Fertilizer up 40% or more. Diesel prices doubled. Workers all deported. Rural America is FUCKED.
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TAV63 5 days ago +30
They voted for this. Most of them anyway.
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lopix 5 days ago +10
Do they realize that, though?
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TAV63 5 days ago +15
No they still blame Dems whoever the new scape goat for the right is at the time. They won't change until the bubble is broken and no idea how that happens. I mean look at the deep red states that have been bottom of the barrel for a long time. Republicans in charge for a long time and now flipping to maga. Facts or reality on how to get better are not driving their voting. My point was only it is hard to feel sympathy for people who are doing it to themselves.
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SupahSpankeh 5 days ago +7
He raped kids, if that doesn't bother them what makes you think this will?
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Oberon_Swanson 5 days ago +13
I think the majority of them know their votes are self-destructive but they see it as a worthwhile sacrifice if everyone else's lives get even worse. Of course they'll never take responsibility for their actions, they are childish morons. But they know what they're getting with fascism. I think even the "fascism eats itself eventually" is fine with them.
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YoghurtFlan 5 days ago +50
The US thinks it's the greatest in the world at everything, so naturally it has to become the greatest failure in the world too
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Jackadullboy99 5 days ago +47
It amazes me that so many Christians voted in the guy that ticks more Antichrist boxes than anyone else I can think of…. He’s so on-the-nose satany…..
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jimjamjahaa 4 days ago +19
the very vast majority of christians are not really christian in the sense of having found god and believing in all the things and trying to be a good christian to get to heaven. they don't believe in heaven and hell. they are just trying to fit in with a tribe.
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Ill_Ground_1572 4 days ago +7
Totally. And I also think the Evangelist groups in the US are extremely dangerous. The Project 2025 folks coupled with those fanatics who want to start the Rapture in the middle East are fully behind Trump and his policies.
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JoJack82 5 days ago +66
When you are as dumb as a trump supporter, nothing is predictable.
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RedditNerdKing 5 days ago +5
Hey but at least they owned the libs though right?
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cmm239 5 days ago +87
I had people in my family say he couldn’t be that bad of a president. I’m a political science major, the ONLY thing I’m qualified to do is determine how awful he would be. And no one listened.
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Professional_Net4147 5 days ago +29
Do they admit they were wrong?
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Anothercraphistorian 5 days ago +32
In my personal experience, having told them for a decade…they no longer want to discuss politics.
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cinnapear 5 days ago +37
I'm gonna give you one guess...
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Cpt_Soban 5 days ago +15
"Obama's fault"
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Upstairs_Bar_4470 5 days ago +44
Too many uneducated stupid people in america thats the problem
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Forsaken_Celery8197 5 days ago +108
Well that isn't true now is it. It also took compromised politicians, a corrupt Supreme court, a complicit news media system, and foreign state actors actively using every US system against the US.
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4dr14n 5 days ago +30
Those who chose not to vote at all are just as guilty as those who voted for him. Every 4 years half the country gets upset cause "their side lost". And the outcome is really decided by just tens of thousands of voters in swing states. Outdated system in the modern age.
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Sentreen 5 days ago +8
> And the outcome is really decided by just tens of thousands of voters in swing states. > Outdated system in the modern age. The w***** takes it all system also does not help. A multi-round system (like France), or ranked choice voting, combined with actual multi-party governments is not perfect, but works better than the two parties the US ended up with.
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lopix 5 days ago +18
With decades of lead up, telegraphing everything, every single step of the way. And Americans either laid back and let it happen, or cheered it along.
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Forsaken_Celery8197 5 days ago +10
The Republicans never sell their own bad policies or trash candidates. They convince everyone their opposition is just as bad if not worse. They don't even bother to tell the truth, they look you straight in the eyes and tell you Somalis are eating the dogs and cats.
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BusinessCasual69 5 days ago +9
It’s more insidious than that. They ignite the dumpster fire, a democrat is eventually elected, and the right blames the democrats for the dumpster fire. Next, they obstruct everything and blame the democrat for not doing enough about the dumpster fire. The people get frustrated at the lack of progress and elect a Republican and we start the process anew.
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OnDrugsTonight 5 days ago +52
And an apathetic population that lets him get away with everything without providing any meaningful pushback.
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justtheicing 5 days ago +13
Yup, Russia won the Cold War. Their ticket to winning was social media. C**** and efficient, destroy America from the inside.
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[deleted] 5 days ago +20
They threw it away, and they did for free. Democracy is dumb, if you can convince enough people to vote for someone with 0 political experience, then perhaps that is the core weakness of the concept. Leadership cannot be entrusted to every citizen.
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Spright91 5 days ago +1160
Can we just say what's actually happening Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Vladimir Putin are destroying the world order. It's not crumbling, it's being destroyed. It's three old men and a horde of morons that follow them.
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t-earlgrey-hot 5 days ago +248
Give some credit to their billionaire friends
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Oldspaghetti 4 days ago +47
Truly, it's kind of annoying by this point that we keep seeing only the obvious names take all the blame. When we know it's a much bigger group. I mean, i guess fair enough since their's not a name attached to all individuals in this mess we know of. But still, there's more!!
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Prestigious_Face7727 5 days ago +92
Well, I don't think trump does any of the original thinking
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abbzug 5 days ago +1348
While they were building airports, EV cars and high speed rail we were building Polymarket and Kalshi. The damned fools.
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lijijil 5 days ago +481
Windmills bad Ev bad Climate change hoax Oil good Uneducated good Billionaires good
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Penqwin 5 days ago +158
Coal, don't forget clean beautiful coal
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bgroins 5 days ago +42
Stupid s*** coal.
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BKlounge93 5 days ago +10
It’s clean because we say it is!
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Competitive_Abroad96 5 days ago +13
18+ bad 13 good
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JCDU 5 days ago +121
And for all the oil lobby shouting that China make more pollution / build coal power plants they have also been going balls out building more wind & solar & battery in a year than America has *in total ever* so they are less and less dependent on oil...
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Yuukiko_ 5 days ago +74
What they don't say is that those coal plants are to replace older more polluting ones and as a backup, meanwhile their coal usage actually fell
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teh_drewski 5 days ago +42
Yeah some of the utilization rates are approaching 50%, but it's uneconomical to run coal much below 70%. Most of what they're building is contingency planning to keep the lights on "just in case". Their green tech revolution is the actual plan, even with the coal plant construction.
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Uranophane 4 days ago +6
They're mostly to move pollution far away from city centers because the cities have grown to encompass the old coal plants.
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double__duck 5 days ago +23
Yeah but we're miles ahead of the Chinese in insider trading
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Speed009 5 days ago +140
our attempt of high speedd rail in CA is the laughing stock of the world
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Practical_Beyond_987 5 days ago +67
Don’t worry, you are not alone, UK’s HS2 may be even worse…
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CommonAd1741 5 days ago +44
But the existing UK high speed rail is already so far ahead compared to the US.
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freeradioforall 5 days ago +20
I went from London to Nottingham in 1:36 minutes, much of the way, it was cruising at 125mph. We could not dream of having anything like that here.
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Doggin-Pony-Show 4 days ago +12
Latest "innovation" big business in the last 10 years- Illegal bank - crypto - Illegal hotel - air bnb - risk your house, local housing more expensive Illegal cab company - Uber/Lyft Previously Illegal Sports betting - Just hand us your money already! The all gig economy, no job security, all hustle! Be an entrepreneur!
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flatfisher 5 days ago +7
Also education and infrastructure. Nobody in power seems to care about the state of the country 20 years in the future, it’s only about their cash flow.
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VanceKelley 5 days ago +261
A few months ago at Davos Canadian PM Carney gave a speech about the fact that the old order was gone. Americans ended it when they elected a convicted criminal promising to rule as dictator.
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Eatpineapplerightnow 5 days ago +75
As a european, I consider Carney the leader of the free world
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Deaftrav 5 days ago +1508
Yup..new world order. Canada is forging a new group. China has theirs. America is falling apart. We're watching the world change... Because a brain dead idiot thought he could use gunboat diplomacy... And got laughed at.
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SpezSucks2023 5 days ago +782
Don’t forget, 30 something percent of their brain dead population voted for him, and another 30 or so percent didn’t vote at all.
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CouchPoturtle 5 days ago +422
Not only voted for him, but voted for him twice and would still vote for him tomorrow.
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breakthro444 5 days ago +223
Three times\*
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Educational_Len159 5 days ago +103
Thank youuuuuuu The hats Trump wears says ‘45-47’ on the side. Indicating he believes he’s the 45th, 46th, and 47th president. His followers believe this too. THREE TIMES.
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breakthro444 5 days ago +29
2016, I get. 2020, kinda, but still understandable. 2024 though, nah, after Jan 6th, anyone who voted for this guy again is a traitor to this country in my book.
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fattytuna96 5 days ago +28
He got more votes in 2024 than any previous election. The price of eggs man…/s
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HotLandscape9755 5 days ago +9
Lol they already are pushing for trump to run in 28 wether thats don “small hands” trump or one of his cretin children.
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knefr 5 days ago +43
I’m a nurse and we’ve lost several doctors and nurses to other countries (Canada, New Zealand). We were talking the other day with one of our docs who leaves next month and we were discussing how even after Trump is gone *the people who elected him will still be here.* Our country is toast. Too many f****** morons found too much joy in making other people suffer. I think about leaving often.
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Some_Current1841 4 days ago +6
If I was financial viable, I’d leave this country.
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Vhu 5 days ago +54
The worst part is they did it thinking they were going to improve America’s standing globally, despite the fact that he already badly stained our reputation the first time. Now it’s broken beyond repair and those same people are acting surprised.
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Yuukiko_ 5 days ago +21
Those people think being a strongman is all that matters
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Neuchacho 5 days ago +17
The people who voted for Trump do not posses the intelligence to understand something like global standing and how it benefits them. They legitimately think the US can just strong-man its way into getting whatever it wants for free because they're just that f****** stupid.
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SolarNachoes 5 days ago +11
Don’t think they care about global standing. They see a white majority shrinking and want to reverse the tide. That’s the “in group” and core to everything you see.
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IcyJackfruit69 5 days ago +11
To be fair (ugh), they don't give a shit about American's standing globally. They're too brain dead to think beyond "we're the best, we shouldn't involve ourselves in any other countries. Except when I feel like it, and then they should all do exactly what I want" And this is literally what Trump does. He's burned down all of our credibility and goodwill and tried to strongarm every ally into doing dumb shit until they've had to publicly stand up to the USA and say "no". Then he throws a tantrum about it.
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ferrarinobrakes 5 days ago +17
Trump has fanatical supporters that also aren’t even American. Shits so fucked I don’t even know where to begin
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Yelworc0242 5 days ago +101
We're watching what happens when a society cuts education to the bone and focuses on creating billionaires.
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eflat123 5 days ago +23
It started with seats on school district boards and textbooks.
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metengrinwi 5 days ago +23
…also too much focus on military. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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nediamnori 5 days ago +116
Trump is an effect not a cause.
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Melxgibsonx616 5 days ago +77
I wish more Americans realized this.  Trump is just American exceptionalism/entitlement at its most crass expression. This isn't anything "new". 
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Paper_Clip100 5 days ago +28
He’s certainly an accelerant though.
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breakupt987654 5 days ago +42
He can be both.
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Law-of-Poe 5 days ago +54
Brain dead idiot was voted in by brain dead republican voters
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BasicMatter7339 5 days ago +30
brain dead idiot was voted in by brain dead citizens who didnt vote. Had all of them voted democrat, we wouldnt be in this situation.
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Choice_Potato_6279 5 days ago +7
F****** finally, seeing one stupid country having their dirty hands in everything is annyoing, some shake up is needed, hopefully they gonna sanction the f*** of US mega tech corporations in the future.
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ConstableAssButt 5 days ago +15
"Gunboat diplomacy". Let's be real, Trump has basically been threatening other countries by shitting his own pants and demanding they supply him with clean ones or he'll just keep shitting them. This isn't diplomacy, it's self-inflicted stupidity. You can't even go along with his demands, because he backtracks within a few days. There's no strategy here. There's no diplomacy here. There's no plan. He's just an incredibly stupid, malicious, insecure man presiding over the end of what two and a half centuries of better men built and stewarded.
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Matticus-G 4 days ago +86
For everyone that thinks this is Trump fault, that’s not directly true. The American people elected him, twice. They supported his message, his ideology, and his manner of approaching things. Politicians at the end of the day are ultimately a reflection of their electorate. US popular culture has turned into a feeding frenzy that supports immoral, hustling morons trying to bleed every drop of money out of things that they can. We are taught from a young age to almost exclusively think about ourselves, and to “get yours” regardless of who else is negatively impacted by your decisions. Trump is just an extreme personification of that moral failure. Combine that with our country’s native zealotry that stems from its religious background, and you have a country of selfish morons that will not accept what they think is wrong - facts, evidence, and logic be damned.
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Complete-Sort1617 5 days ago +2235
All bro had to do is sit back and watch the show. I’m convinced China is on track to completely replace the US. Edit: the propaganda bots are out of control.
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Puzzle-Necked 5 days ago +873
It's crazy. Even Trump's "victories" are personal victories and harmful to the American people.
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ZhangRenWing 5 days ago +170
That’s all he cares about so still a victory for him
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Monkeyseemonkeyfall 5 days ago +44
I saw Eric Trump on a podcast talking about how successful they've been, with one example being the Trump organization personally made over $1 billion on crypto. They are syphoning money from the American people as quickly as possible. This administrations decisions are all for the betterment of the family, not the country. Can't remember the podcast, but clip was on a Sam Harris video.
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clitbeastwood 5 days ago +26
yea the ‘deals’ he always speaks of are deals for his businesses , not for americans
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StrikeMyGyatt 5 days ago +82
That isn't cRazY. Trump has never once given a damn about "the American people". Never.
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goodmobileyes 5 days ago +7
Any victory he gets out of Iran will just be damage control for the mess he started in the first place
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ifnotawalrus 5 days ago +304
It's absolutely insane how America's leadership has everything so backwards. It's like they forgot the entire point of a powerful military is to protect a prosperous economy at the forefront of the scientific and engineering frontier. Instead, we have decided to loot that economy all in the name of power for the sake of power. Absolute idiocy.
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Ambitious-Dealer6273 5 days ago +74
Very backwards. Another aspect I've thought about, is why the current administration seems dead set on undoing "globalism" or the current world order. America set up the current world order and positioned itself firmly on the top. It benefited the most from globalism (maybe not American workers but let's not pretend they care about that). They also don't care about the main complaints against globalism (imperialism, workers rights, 3rd world exploitation) so why are they so dead set on undoing something that benefits them the most? The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that they are morons.
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adjacent_analyzer 5 days ago +27
The people who claw their way to the top are not morons. They are selfish, greedy, manipulative, psychopathic narcissists, but they’re not morons. They just lie about everything which obfuscates their true motives for doing things.
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eflat123 5 days ago +6
Ha, yeah. There's little strategy and reasoning. It's the perverse feeding, gluttony of a malignant narcissistic ego.
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gimmesheltah 5 days ago +6
I cant help but think they are all Fox news addicts, and believe the nonsense it peddles. Trump watches it constantly apparently, Hegseth was a presenter, and Noem, Bondi and the rest of that inept mob are surely also addicted to Fox and Twitter. They truly believe that the rest of the world has been taking advantage of the US, rather than the US benefitting from 80 years of building up its hegemony and trading partnerships. They threw it all away because they fell for fake news.
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Dranulon 5 days ago +164
If you read Marx, you'd get that was always what they were going to do. When the owner class owns it all they will break the system that made them over its back and utilize those breaks to acquire more power at the cost of everything. Our system nurtures deeply sick sociopathic people. It's part of why the Epstein events were inevitable, they have everyrhing and reach for the taboo. We need to hate billionaires, the grotesquely wealthy, and properly tax the shit out of them to keep them from getting out of control or beyond reproach.
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NoArrival8249 5 days ago +38
100%. It’s why everything seems bonkers-coocoo lately too. All of these “institutions” are collapsing and *consooming* themselves in almost absurd fashion. Because the inevitable end of taking advantage of people is always consooming your self.
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Ketzeph 5 days ago +24
It’s not backwards to them. They want to take everything they can and then leave the corpse behind. That was Putin’s offer to Trump. It’s the Republican voter who has shit backwards, as they are so unimaginably stupid they cannot see the obvious intent of their leaders.
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OkOriginal715 5 days ago +9
It’s like a private equity firm bought the US!
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Obvious_Landscape993 5 days ago +22
77 million Americans who voted for this have toddler minds.
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MinecraftFootJob 5 days ago +144
China’s ‘do nothing and win’ strategy is paying off significantly.
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Oberon_Swanson 5 days ago +27
Well they aren't doing nothing, they are actively making efforts to take advantage of America shooting itself in the foot for the second time in the past 10 years.
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tiradium 5 days ago +44
Valve learned it from them 😂
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Dmitriy_Aus 5 days ago +36
China learnt it from Valve 😭
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enkanshi 5 days ago +32
It's 2054, China has won. The American state, a shadow of its former self, is powerless to stop China which has expanded its hegemony across the world. In Beijing, Xi Jinping addresses the crowd before returning to his private chambers. Behind red curtains, is a secret door that nobody but he knows about. He crosses that portal and kneels in front of a projector. With a flicker of a switch, a dance of lights sputter out from the machine. The lights assemble themselves into the gaunt shape of Gabe Newell, now kept alive with life-preserving medicines. "Is it done?" Newell croaks in a low voice. "Yes, master" Xi Jinping whimpers submissively.
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dvb70 5 days ago +22
It feels like we are going to look back on the Trump regime and say that's when global power started to shift to China. It's been predicted for a long time this was going to happen but it very much feels like we are seeing it play out in front of our eyes right now. Trump taking a wrecking ball to all of the things that made the US so powerful is quite the thing to witness.
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SpyFromMarsHXJD 5 days ago +56
Actually many Chinese believe it is better for a sane America to hold the world order, because it’s proven time after time that it’s only a burden to dominate. And never in history did China ever want to dominate the world in a global sense.
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hackenclaw 5 days ago +25
They only wanna trade and make load of money. It ends there.
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Teantis 5 days ago +17
That's also how the US and UK started before they became global powers. A country may start this way, but resources are in far flung places with dodgy governments, vulnerable trade routes, nearby geopolitical rivals etc., etc., to secure those suddenly they're being "forced" to project power all over the place.
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TitanicChurro 5 days ago +11
Because of the [Triffin Dilemma.]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma?wprov=sfla1) The country that controls the global currency bears the debt of doing so.
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dessanct 5 days ago +136
I know it’s not s*** to say but they have a long way to go on economy. They would have to almost double their current GDP to pass the US. The world order is shifting but not as fast as people on Listnook think it is. Edit: downvoting this just means you believe facts the same way MAGA does lol
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grumble11 5 days ago +49
No question, but China is very uneven. GDP is a measure of consumption, and certain things can maintain quality of life but not increase consumption. For example in China apartments and public transport are more common, which are extremely efficient relative to suburban sprawl and car culture. That drops consumption but maintains standard of living. In China goods and services are also drastically cheaper, making the calculations difficult. I am not arguing that people in China have the same discretionary income as people do in the US. They do not. They probably will not, for various reasons. The gulf in the emerging middle class in urban centers isn’t as different though.
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Catatonic27 5 days ago +69
Another way of looking at it is the US would only need to halve its GDP...
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manniesalado 5 days ago +17
Trump sure knows how to make bigly trouble.
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ProdoRock 5 days ago +209
Welcome to Trump’s world. I suppose it was inevitable. If you have an overwhelming, technological superpower like the US, but half the populace is quite uneducated and poor and they all vote, they will vote in a complete moron who out of sheer incompetence will take it all down.
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Commercial-Invite253 5 days ago +72
I think the more fundamental flaw in Democracy is the chaotic free flow of misinformation. People have no idea what is true anymore. Somedays I open up Listnook for a good brain-rot session and I read some posts that people are getting outraged about, on both sides of the political aisle, and it’s completely false nonsense on both sides. My only really bad idea that is a possible solution is to create a benevolent dictator AI that controls a “Ministry of Truth” so that way at least neither side can say that the truth is biased against them. If we fix the spread of misinformation and disinformation. Then we can start fixing people’s brain rot. Maybe then, the far left will stop supporting terrorism, and the far right will stop voting for autocracy. But I’m not optimistic.
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daveberzack 5 days ago +38
In theory, that would be great. I don't really fear AI. I fear the apparent inevitability of the shittiest humans taking charge of that system and exploiting it.
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juanjodic 5 days ago +11
Or, maybe, you can fix your education system to actually educate people so they can discern truth from propaganda.
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ThlintoRatscar 5 days ago +20
Or... y'know... professional journalists and professors who are well paid to curate information rather than entertain us or persuade us. As soon as the news became ad financed, things got bad. When university students became tourists with professors as their cruise directors, things got worse.
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JackStrawWitchita 5 days ago +102
Trump has hastened the speed of China becoming the dominant nation on Earth.
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kombiwombi 5 days ago +22
川建国
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DaileyFlosser39 5 days ago +18
He and his voters have sealed that fate for us all.
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rsnikam 5 days ago +24
War is literally taking toll now. 
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animatedpileofmeat 5 days ago +181
Yuuuuuuup. We never shoulda let the dumb-dumbs have a say.
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Catatonic27 5 days ago +82
We never shoulda let dumb-dumbs comprise the majority of our population either. That's not an accident. Dumb-dumbs don't crash a democracy if there's just a few of them. But we've been slashing education for decades.
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Tetrachroma_ 5 days ago +18
This is the cumulative effect of about 50 years of slashing education.
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dryfire 5 days ago +24
We should have prioritized education. More money for school facilities, programs, higher education and teachers pay so we would have fewer dum-dums. There is literally no problem on the planet that more education can't improve if not solve outright.
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Agent_Stormbird 5 days ago +9
"A nation that out-educates us will outcompete us" \- Jill Biden
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HueyBluey 5 days ago +45
I’m sure he sees what the rest of the world is seeing - the self destruction of the United States of America.
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Impressive_Box4144 5 days ago +9
Trump and Netanyahu have everything to do with it!
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Former-Science1734 4 days ago +9
Trump is pretty much running the US into the ground
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_thro_awa_ 5 days ago +17
Sounds like a case of he said, Xi said.
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castlite 5 days ago +13
China really is going to oust the US as the global leader. I wonder if Americans realize how badly they fucked up.
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iamacheeto1 5 days ago +7
that's exactly what he wants to happen
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allIsOneOfCourse 5 days ago +6
all because of feebleminded Americans believing what they're told without question or care.
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currentlyeating 5 days ago +7
epstein files also had something in there about changing the world order btw
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AngularMan 4 days ago +6
Well, maybe Xi shouldn't have given Putin his blessing to invade Ukraine. This was the first blow to the stable World Order we had before, and without Chinese support for Russia it might not have crumbled the way it did. Imagine China and the US actually both defending International Law for the sake of economic stability and future prosperity instead of this ridiculous rivalry between two superpowers, and not because they are friendly with each other but because they are both interested in a stable order. Even without major use of military force, their sheer political and economic power could probably enforce it.
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KingAso88 5 days ago +5
Blame citizen's united. American Democracy answers to billionaires and foreign govts apparently.
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default3612 5 days ago +5
Well, how about STOP SELLING WEAPONS!!!
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gmonster12 4 days ago +5
China: does nothing. Wins.
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Pretty-Temporary-155 4 days ago +4
China will run out of fuel reserves in early June and most of their oil comes through Hormuz. The clock is ticking. They don’t care about the rest of the world.
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