Zelenskiy says Ukraine wants money, technology in return for Middle East drone help

And make sure it’s not transported through Hungary, the thieving Orbanistas bastards.

So he is holding cards maybe all the cards.

Yup. Make sure to take delivery of as much support as possible before helping the prick. Me? Id demand F35 and the appropriate software keys to use them at will.

Use Donnie’s playbook. Only sell help, don’t offer it. Business is business. Charge hefty for it. I am all for it. If they want drones, sell them drones. If they want support, sell them support. Don’t offer it free of charge or on a buy now pay later loan.

Didn’t they already get the money upfront? I am 100% in favor of giving support to Ukraine, but pretending that the West hasn’t been helping Ukraine a lot is insane.

Trump also claimed he didnt need Britain's help, got all petty about it too. Now hes begging for allied navies to help patrol hormuz.

>Trump claimed he doesn't need Ukraine's help, He didn't need ANYONE'S help. But now he does cause he's in over his head and wants more capable people to tell him what to do and make decisions. He and Hegseth are the most incompetent people to possibly ever lead a modern military operation.

Ukraine holds a pretty unique bargaining chip: anti-drone knowledge and experience, particularly against Iran's own Shahed drones. From Ukraine's perspective, Iran is just as much an enemy as Russia since they supply the Russians with munitions and drones. This is a chance to help someone get at Iran and possibly harm the supply pipeline to Russia which indirectly helps Ukrainian military operations and protects civilians. It makes some sense, and it also makes sense to want that payment up front.

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Unsanctioned Russian oil with record high prices is doubly bad. Helping the US defeat Iran so that oil prices go down helps Ukraine because it reduces Russia's revenue from oil, sanctioned or not. At the moment Russia has both high prices AND unsanctioned oil.

What a weird question. Because it is in their geostrategic interests to do it at this current moment?

And the US better say “Thank you.”

What dream world do you live in where it's even remotely possible to cut off russia from the rest of the world?

Depends on perspective: to me, allowing Russian carriers is 1. Natural, since embargoes are acts of war and 2. Actually helping nations who are REALLY in the shit without any oil. Like Cuba, which is undergoing an energy crisis that is making an already poor population not be able to afford food.

Because Ukraine literally cannot survive without military support from the United States.

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Because they get money and technology? This isn't a free lunch and no they don't have the leverage to do something wild like demand Russia be fully sanctioned before providing the drones and receiving money and technology in exchange.

Might i suggest that he should also wear a suit that actually fits.

Yes and no - shooting down Iranian drones in Iran is safer than shooting down Iranian drones in Ukraine. Still, when you’re given a free cow, milk it.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the world’s foremost military superpower?

It's only a waste of taxpayer money. The ruling class is making bank off of them.

Don't forget to say thank you

Unironically that's why Trump hates him. He wants to be in his place. Be respected by european leaders. Not being laughed at. That's why he made his peace board with paid membership - to feel important

And precious PAC-3 interceptors could be used hitting russian ballistic missiles and not flying mopeds

Ukrainian don't deserve Zelensky corruption

Is it, though? After how many untold billions in arms and training to keep their country sovereign?

How much you want?

Until Trump completely cut off the aid, and started doing nothing but selling equipment to Ukraine on the condition that the EU buys it. War aid is not in the cards with Trump.

What's your point, they just gave 40 billion to Argentina just to bailout a few of Trump's buddies that made awful investments in the country. I think that's a little worse, those fuckers aren't in war and it was due to bad financial investment by idiots in power at the moment, not being attacked by a rival power killing any civilians in it's way wishing to expend and cares little for rule of law.

And Ukraine paid in blood and soldiers lives fighting your adversary. You're welcome. And looking at war with Iran example look how expensive it is when you doing it by yourself.

Bro thinks ukraine should help the US on faith after they hung them out to dry and lifted sanctions on their enemy, publicly embarrased their leader on live tv and continuously undermined ukrainian warmaking through cutting off of intelligence and restricting the use of leased weapons. Trumps iran war has cost about 20 billion so far. And its only been what? A few weeks. The ukraine war has been raging for 4 years. An overvalued worth of $150 billion in outdated kit and insufficient airdefences does not give the US the right to demand the world from an already stretched nation. A price must be paid, and it must be paid upfront as Trump has proven himself to be unreliable in the extreme.

But that was Biden. It’s Trump bring dealt with now.

Only a bit over half the pledged amount has actually been given, and much of it is basically vouchers where Ukraine gets subsidized American weaponry (similar to the free stuff we give to Israel) which benefits American defense companies.  And Ukraine got invaded for this 2nd or 3rd time because it wanted to join the USA's military alliance...after it gave up its nukes and got security promises from both the US and Russia back in the 1990s.  In regards to the biggest donors, the US is the largest donor if you don't count the EU as one entity. The EU's economy is about 2/3 that of the US economy and the EU/EU member states has pledged about 190 billion Euros (roughly 190 billion dollars) in aid to Ukraine.

Israel first. They owe way more.

He don't owe us chit!. They gave up nukes when we asked, in exchange for protection that never arrived. I would give him back his nukes.

US still owe a lot if you count 2500 tactical and almost 2000 strategic nukes along with 44 bombers, SCUD systems and ICBMs Ukraine gave up under US and Russia pressure.