It’s unsettling how successful Palantir is with getting whatever it wants and how receptive to them so many politicians are.
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BoboThePirate1 day ago
+557
Palantir owes a lot of its sea legs to their deployment in Ukraine. They got a flood of NATO contracts following years 1-2 from UA’s utilization of Palntir’s targeting and information suite.
On Zelensky meeting with Palantir, he plays the game well. If he thinks cozying up with Palantir will save his country, he will do it. He does the same with Trump.
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basicastheycome1 day ago
+312
Yeah, Zelenskyy will meet with whomever if he believes that it will help defending his country. Can’t fault him for that, it’s literally his job after all.
What bothers me is how palantir, despite its affiliations and not exactly pleasant owner with clear supremacist agenda gets a free pass in rest of Europe. Like how the hell anyone thought it’s a good idea to hand over NHS data to American company, let alone one whose leadership has its own ideological agenda (one not exactly friendly to Europe) to push
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Free-Scar506013 hr ago
+11
The two share way more under the five eyes agreement. Basically, if the US hacks the nhs data, they can then share it back to the UK government without the UK getting clipped for domestic spying. They share their own results of spying on us with us.
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BeatTheMarket301 day ago
+32
Ukraine has its own military system called Delta.
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BoboThePirate1 day ago
+54
Yes, Ukrainian software has been impressive. Kropyva is another, dubbed “Uber but for Artillery” is personal favorite. This was used very early in the war and stuck in my mind.
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BeatTheMarket301 day ago
+24
Depending on something like Palantir is very risky for Ukraine, same as with Patriot. US will use it as leverage to achieve its own objectives, not Ukraine's, It is my conviction in terms of defence countries should be cooperating primarily with those in close geographical proximity as those will have similar interests.
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sw04ca22 hr ago
+17
This is a challenge for Ukraine, as their interests are somewhat unique, to defend themselves from Russian aggression. In the medium term, most of their neighbours have been pretty reliably hostile towards Ukrainian interests, and so it's not unreasonable that they're making short-term deals with whoever can help them.
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BestFriendWatermelon22 hr ago
+4
If the US tries to use Ukrainian access to Palantir as leverage, Palantir collapses. Nobody wants to be a customer of a company that reneges on its contracts at the whim of the country it's based in.
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BeatTheMarket3022 hr ago
+6
I don't see Raytheon collapsing.
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broose_the_moose19 hr ago
-1
Collapses like this happen slowly.
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Basquebadboy17 hr ago
+1
There are European alternatives such as DataWalk from Poland.
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ObviousSheepherder2414 hr ago
+1
I haven't heard of them. Or the Ukrainian ones mentioned above. A year or so ago I tried to see if there were EU Palantir competitors and at that time Hellsing and Mistral had just joined - haven't looked into em much since but also haven't heard anything and I feel like my algo would have.
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Basquebadboy8 hr ago
+2
DataWalk are making inroads where Palantir used to be alone.
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MotanulScotishFold23 hr ago
+8
Since Ukraine stopped relying on US for Intel, they had to rely on someone else.
Palantir is powerful and evil but at least can be useful for them on this war alone and ditch them later I hope.
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skeevemasterflex16 hr ago
+1
Reminds me of that Churchill quote, "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would at least make a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of commons." Gotta do what ya gotta do when your entire country is on the line due to a bigger, militant power.
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candry_shop1 day ago
+72
According to my friend who works for a company that contracted with Palantir. The "issue" is that Palantir's services/products are really really good at what they are doing.
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IonHawk1 day ago
+32
Yeah, I studied a little bit of Big Data. Long before current Ai trends. Full potential of it is bigger than Ai too me. It can help you make amazing models at predicting the future, or finding things from noise Noone thought you could ever have any idea of. Know you have a disease long before current measurements. Predicting when a terror attack is most likely to occur.
Palantir is a very fitting name.
Problem is it's extremely complex. Palantir seems to be one of the only companies that truly utilizes it to this extent.
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Norzon248 hr ago
+2
>Full potential of it is bigger than Ai too me.
I'm under the impression that the reason big data isn't at hot these days because it is already quite a mature technology, all the tech giants have already incorporated into their regular operations. AI is just the new hot thing
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Best_Baseball342916 hr ago
Great at identifying Palestinian children.
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Tramagust22 hr ago
-8
That's not it. They were getting nowhere selling their product until 2022 and then got a big boost 2024ish, 2025ish when they sided with MAGA. Their product was just as good in the past but their sales aligned with the politics.
To the haters here is the CEO explaining it himself:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeV4SmMlMi4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeV4SmMlMi4)
[https://www.businessinsider.com/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-venture-capital-failure-2019-1](https://www.businessinsider.com/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-venture-capital-failure-2019-1)
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winnie_the_slayer18 hr ago
+3
They got a boost during covid when they built trackers and dashboards for the government to help track the spread of the disease and the disbursement of vaccines and such.
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Tramagust18 hr ago
The CEO said it himself. I showed you. And in wired there's an article in which he explicitly credits maga. But you're like nah.
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broose_the_moose19 hr ago
+5
Nah. They got a boost because frontier labs were scaling LLMs and discovering breakthroughs. Had nothing to do with MAGA/Trump. I’m not defending Palantir here, but your statement is plain wrong.
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protostar7114 hr ago
+2
Full agree, the only reason Palantir has entered the public consciousness is because of how damn good they are with data.
Even before the LLM boom, [they have had US Military / Intel contracts since the Bush Jr administration](https://techcrunch.com/2015/01/11/leaked-palantir-doc-reveals-uses-specific-functions-and-key-clients/). People seem to think they appeared from nowhere, they have been honing their trade for a long time now. They just kept under the radar as most of their work was hushed under "national security".
If Trump is the pinnacle of incompetent evil, Palantir is approaching the pinnacle of competent evil. They wouldn't be such a threat to individual liberty if they were c*** at their job.
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MrFurious017 hr ago
+13
Palantir is Big Brother. I mean, big brother was the figurehead, and this isn't that - but in the book, Big Brother had literal people watching every single thing you did, all day, every day - this is exactly that apparatus, but manned by a machine instead.
So if you are disturbed by how ubiquitous it seems, that only proves that you've been paying attention.
Winston says, repeatedly, "If there is hope, it's in the proles" - well, we ARE the proles, and this machine is watching all of us equally. It just doesn't mind what the alt-reich does, it only objects to things done by left-minded individuals.
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the_bananalord12 hr ago
+6
Honestly, I can't blame Ukraine. They are fighting for existence.
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Jazs19941 day ago
+20
UK just signed to give access to everyone's nhs data. Apparently 60+ million.
Palantir is too big and diverse for countries to ignore.
We need a Johnny silverhand
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FoXtroT_ZA1 day ago
+25
That’s what happens when your product is really good. All the traditional big data and defense companies were asleep at the wheel it seems and can’t move fast enough to catch up
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bulking_on_broccoli1 day ago
+5
They want to train their AI using an active, modern war.
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Jodzilla19 hr ago
+2
Legit question: What do they hope to accomplish outside of extreme wealth?
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bulking_on_broccoli18 hr ago
+3
Power.
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Fun_Success_328321 hr ago
+7
This is essentially a trojan horse type situation.
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basicastheycome20 hr ago
+4
Yea. Trouble is that products palantir offers is sort of good but risk to public privacy and national security is not exactly I would be willing to trade away for that.
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kochiriri1 day ago
+1
is it?
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fragbot220 hr ago
They’re successful because they are the best in the world at what they do—operationalizing ML for the enterprise.
If you see ML as impactful (which it undeniably is for targeting which, ironically, causes much of the disdain), Palantir is at the top of the list.
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Keirtain1 day ago
-13
There’s nothing that makes me convinced that Palantir is a good western defense contractor quite like the amount of Listnook propaganda and misinformation trying to make me hate them.
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_ram_ok1 day ago
+7
So good at defence contracting that they need the entirety of the United Kingdom’s citizens NHS health data dating back to 1948. Nothing malevolent going on there at all.
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candry_shop1 day ago
+6
Palantir can be good at what they do and malevolent. It's not exclusive .
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Slaaneshdog21 hr ago
Wow, a company that uses big data to provide their extremely useful services need big data?!?!? crazy bruh
/s
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_ram_ok20 hr ago
+1
Useful to who?
Oh looks like your great grandparent’s health record shows they died of cancer age 53. You just turned 53, so the risk is higher from now on so we’re gonna charge you more.
[u/Slaaneshdog](u/Slaaneshdog) who’s invested in palantir and nothing else: So useful bro!
But them at their job: Why did you redeem it!
A publicly traded company is getting a UK residents entire family generational health data, for free, because the UK resident isnt getting paid jack shit.
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omnibossk17 hr ago
They essentially have a monopoly in surveillance software. When nobody can replace your product, you sell and eat well even if you are an ass
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TheWellington891 day ago
+181
Palantir will be instrumental in killing us all
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Black-Shoe21 hr ago
+30
They already are.
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ThoughtShes185 hr ago
+2
Ultron is coming
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MeatAdministrative8721 hr ago
+17
Maybe not killing, but enslaving, sure.
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fragbot220 hr ago
-8
What’s your reasoning for this?
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TheWellington898 hr ago
+3
The ceo said they would. They are installing themselves in government agencys collecting data and cataloguing it which could be used with their drone targeting software which they tested in a warzone to murder entire families with killer robots. They have no reservations about killing people for profit. Even killing people for data seems to be acceptable. Again just look up anything the ceo says hes an absolute nutjob
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TJ-LEED-AP19 hr ago
+30
The company whose CEO was best friends with Epstein? That Palantir?
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kochiriri1 day ago
+40
private intelligence agency meets the leader of a country at war
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TheArgumentPolice21 hr ago
+22
I'm uneasy about this.
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PanneKopp1 day ago
+65
better do not trade the evil
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0098six1 day ago
+72
Kyiv agrees to Palantir deal --> Ukraine war data makes its way to Palantir's US-based data centers --> Trump admin demands data on Ukraine from Palantir's US-based data centers --> Trump hands his Daddy Putin that data --> Putin uses said data to defeat Ukraine.
Change my mind.
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BestFriendWatermelon22 hr ago
+14
Nobody would ever do business with Palantir again if that happened, destroying one of the most promising and powerful businesses backed by one of Trump's staunchest allies. Palantir has sensitive defence contracts with half the world's governments, the cost of losing those would be incalculable to Palantir.
All to plunder the company for a 1 time trove of targeting data that Russia won't be able to take advantage of since Ukrainian air defences would destroy 99% of their missiles as they currently do, and that will be totally obsolete in a matter of hours anyway.
Trump would be shooting the golden goose for basically nothing. Palantir is evil, and so is Trump, but what you're suggesting would destroy Palantir, devastated the US's reputation around the world, and wouldn't actually achieve anything.
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GeneReddit1231 day ago
+28
>Putin uses said data to defeat Ukraine.
That's the weakest link.
We're conditioned here on the Internet that abstract "data" is the most important thing in the world. Maybe on Listnook. But in war, what matters are bullets, bombs, guns, missiles, drones, tanks, planes, ships, trucks, as well as the soldiers, civilians, factories, technologies, transport networks, food, medicine, and funds which produce, supply, and drop these munitions on target.
Putin has used all of the above for years to try and defeat Ukraine.
Ukraine has used all of the above for years to resist being defeated by Putin.
Without these things, "data" is useless. With these, "data" is a commodity like any other. Putin knowing where Ukrainians are is bad, but not as bad as Ukrainians having no weapons to shoot Russian invaders when they still inevitably come (with or without the "data").
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ThreeSir523 hr ago
+11
Claiming that Russia couldn’t use sensitive intelligence against Ukraine while they’re at war is wild
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BestFriendWatermelon22 hr ago
-2
That's not what OP said.
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0098six1 day ago
+8
My context here is that "data" would be valuable intelligence information that Putin could lever to accelerate the defeat of Ukraine.
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WestyCanadian1 day ago
+11
Palantir doesn’t have data centres. What are you talking about?
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Some_Conference209123 hr ago
+3
Palantir has traditionally relied on cloud providers including Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, and Oracle. It’s unclear if the company has any major leased or self-built data center footprint.
They were in discussions last year to develope a data center in Texas at the planned Fermi campus outside Amarillo.
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WestyCanadian23 hr ago
+3
They don’t because the software is ran locally if i recall. Theres no point in running data centre for them as it would decrease their margins significantly.
Unless you’re suggesting Palantir is running a separate balance sheet as a public company. Their statement does not indicate high capex spending.
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0098six1 day ago
+7
It may not own them outright, but they collect data and stores that data in...US-based data centers. No matter what Palantir may say about data security, their SaaS platform likely gives them access to that data. Should they be trusted? No. They are in bed with a corrupt US president and his administration.
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WestyCanadian23 hr ago
+5
You mean Project Maven? Ukrainian have been using that system since the start of the war. And no Palantir doesn’t collect or store data thats just misinformation.
Project Maven is a platform that connects data points provided by the users and provides suggested actions from intelligence sharing with allies to target acquisition.
The reason why it’s powerful is because you can plug and play Maven with any LLM models of the user choice to interpret the data.
If Palantir was collecting and storing data Ukrainians and all NATO ally would know( Ukrainian Intelligence is top tier imo) . Because you would notice such data leak. Not saying your point isn’t valid but highly unlikely based on the facts on the ground.
Not changing your mind, but thats the reality. Palantir has been working with Ukraine since day 1.
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zona201115 hr ago
+3
The only hole I see is the fact Palantir doesn’t have data centers so I’m not sure how they’d get past step 2. Their clients own and house all the data. The clients are also the sole deciders of what data to share, who gets access, and the level of access they get.
The data is housed on clients private servers which prevents unauthorized access. And the access given to Palantir employees is not only limited in scope but monitored by the client. If data was “stolen”, the client would know, that would be a breach of contract and illegal, and even if/when Trumps admin doesn’t pursue charges the reputational damage would kill Palantir as a company and nobody would do business with them. Billionaires care more about money than they do about stealing data so it’s unlikely they’d risk it.
Pair that with the fact there have been zero accusations by any of their clients, people who would know much better than us. Peter Theil is a gigantic piece of shit, I’m not saying he doesn’t want to do it. I’m just saying they don’t have data centers so it’s literally impossible and even if they had data centers, which they don’t, Theil fears losing money more than he fears not being able to steal data.
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0098six14 hr ago
This is fair. Like any system, the weak link will be human beings susceptible to corruption. Find the weak link, and you will get the data. That risk is not zero. But, I suppose that is true for any system.
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zona201112 hr ago
+1
That was a shockingly cordial response. I appreciate that.
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mrkoalahd20 hr ago
+10
Palantir is shit zelensky don't sell your soul for that ...
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FixedFun116 hr ago
+5
Using Palantir will backfire ugh.
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cgcel15 hr ago
+6
They will betray Ukraine, they are all in for trump putin...i hope they don't trust them
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ObviousSheepherder2414 hr ago
+3
They seem more self-interested/opportunistic than actual dedicated magats. To be clear that's potentially way worse.
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ThaPhantom0714 hr ago
+4
Nope, dont like that at all.
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MKW691 day ago
+9
Dissapointing, but not surprising.
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Lonely_Ice59741 day ago
+5
Good, the better tools UA has to destroy glorious human capital sent by moscow the quicker this war will end.
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AngryTomato0271 day ago
+3
Does that mean Zelensky gets unlimited token consumption per month 🤔
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Puniversefr1 day ago
+5
Another one falls to Saruman. Not surprised any bit here, just some random uruk hai playing puppet.
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Cream253Team21 hr ago
+2
Can't blame Ukraine. It's the 5th year of being at war and Europe and the US aren't pulling out the stops to help.
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danvsmondays22 hr ago
+2
We are watching the rise of skynet
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Forwutrzn719 hr ago
+2
Ukraine deserves so much more help than there currently receiving! However I just don’t like at all how involved Palantir is with legit everything. Also hate the CEO
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linkardtankard1 day ago
+4
Wouldn’t Mr Putin be a better fit for a potential business relationship?
Remember how counting Jews was powered by IBM technology back in the day?
Big tech 🤝 totalitarian states
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ktwhite421 day ago
+12
Oh, I'm sure Palantir will do business with them, too.
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ObviousSheepherder2414 hr ago
+1
I've heard rumblings of Mossad having disproportionate connections to Russian intelligence and there are multiple reasons that could be, but if Israel is concerned about US gov support dissolving in the near future, they'd leverage their private tech companies and/or eastern block connections as a hedge, and if the western block leadership sees that plausibility, they'd want to secure comparably scary tech that's more firmly aligned with them.
Karp strikes me as under the influence of the rich a****** kool-aid he mainlines, so, within the confines of his warped views, I think he's relatively honest about what he wants, and that's something much more stable than Russia, much less Islamic than Iran, much more free market than China. In general, I think western oligarchs are keen to keep the trappings of liberalism (in the political philosophy sense, not the "general left" sense of the US citizenry).
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Terrible-Group-96021 day ago
-1
Listnookors brains literally explode at the thought that without Starlink and Palantir, Ukraine would already have lost the war.
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claypunk1 day ago
+17
yes, my brain is hurting a little bit. I dislike the philosophies of the people behind starlink and palantir, but they have produced world-class products. Despite their morally dubious values, they are the best in the world in technology, and as product of the West they help hold the front against the anti-West in Ukraine.
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Terrible-Group-96021 day ago
+9
Palantir helped Ukraine collect evidence of war crimes by Russian soldiers and to track the soldiers.
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claypunk1 day ago
+7
I'm just saying: I don't like what they stand for, but I sure am glad they are on our side. That's the moral conflict that I have.
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Terrible-Group-96021 day ago
+1
I agree. Companies, just like leaders or governments can simultaneously do good or bad things and say good or bad things.
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SideInitial39611 day ago
-23
Palantir will be the end of Zelensky. Watch.
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Lonely_Ice59741 day ago
+11
Nope it will not be the end of Zelensky. A lot of things might be, but another weapon to defend your country will not be it.
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GeneReddit1231 day ago
+74
The Ukraine War will likely be the political end of Zelensky, no matter what. He was given an impossible task and (at best) can wrest out a military draw, because he has no allies willing to give him what it takes to actually win lest they antagonize Atomic Daddy Putin into starting a nuclear holocaust (as if). Ukraine, even today, formally agrees to immediate ceasefire as-is along current lines (with Russia keeping what it already illegally got). Putin still demands even *more* territory, even one he hasn't conquered yet. He always did and always will, nothing will satiate him except the full subjugation of Ukraine and former possessions of the Russian Empire.
Zelensky's first and only task is to not lose the war outright, to save his country and people from death and slavery as it experienced countless times at the hands of Russia over decades and centuries.
Palantir (and other AI techbros like Anduril) aren't in Ukraine for idle chit-chat. They're developing autonomous lethal drones with end-stage AI guidance and only "general" guardrails (the operator sets the geofenced killzone area, but then the drone goes on its own happy hunting within that geofence.) Experimental videos of it are already surfacing on Ukrainian TG channels.
I do agree it's extremely dangerous for humanity and we should have never reached the point where this becomes a reality, but the blame should lie with those who chose not to give Ukraine sufficient conventional weapons, prompting the development of essentially Skynet, with all of us ending up far greater danger than we would have faced have we been willing to give Ukraine what it needs to win from the get-go.
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AsItWasnt1 day ago
-22
didnt know you could have so many bad takes
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Amaranthine1 day ago
+10
I’m curious what you think the bad take is here.
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RadiantTurtle1 day ago
+7
Your well-thought counter arguments are so succinct!
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Zetakin1 day ago
-51
You’re Essentially saying: no one is helping Ukraine and so its okay for Palantir to test and train AI military stuff in Ukraine.
Crazy mentality right there.
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Good_Restaurant151 day ago
+34
If the alternative is to get wiped out by russia, yes, they have a duty to do anything it takes, even if Palantir is that option.
The rest of us can be as disgusted as we want, but we're not the ones being bombed by Russia with no end in sight.
F*** Palantir, but you can't blame Ukraine for trying to survive using whatever it can. If the rest of us don't like it, we've had years to act, by now.
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Lonely_Ice59741 day ago
+20
How exactly is it crazy? Bunch of defense companies swarmed UA due to one single reason - testing in live combat environment. No one can imitate real war therefore data received from real combat is priceless comparing to what simulations would produce. However its funny to me how you mention word "mentality" regarding using whatever you can get to defend your country while somehow you see the ultimate evil in Palantir not the torturing raping ruzzians. Critical thinking isnt a gift that everyone has received. F*** outta here
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Zetakin1 day ago
-15
World doesn’t revolve around Ukraine nor does the world war and killing of innocent lives end at Ukrainians victory. This short sighted mentality is crazy. Giving a company access to data to essential build machines that might automatically kill and surveillance civilians is crazy.
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Lonely_Ice59741 day ago
+14
Innocent lives of occupiers who r*** and torture women and children? Lives very much worth of killing with anything you can use.
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Zetakin1 day ago
-8
Future victims of these tools, my guy. But comprehensive reading and thinking skills aren’t close to you I see.
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GeneReddit1231 day ago
+48
>You’re Essentially saying: no one is helping Ukraine and so its okay for Palantir to test and train AI military stuff in Ukraine.
Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying, word for word.
When your life and freedom is on the line, you are justified in using any means legal under international law to defend yourself against aggression. Like it or not, AI is still legal.
You are not one whose father, son, or brother was killed in a trench with their corpse left to wild animals to scavenge. You're not the one found dead with hands tied behind your back, gunned down by the enemy as he retreated. You're not the one whose children were killed when a plane dropped bombs on their school in a besieged city (clearly visible from the air with a large CHILDREN sign). You're not the one whose elderly mother froze to death in her home when the enemy intentionally bombed civilian heating facilities during sub-zero winter temperatures to terrorize civilians into demanding surrender. You are not the one mutilated, starved, sexually violated, or outright murdered in a POW camp after having already surrendered. You are not the one whose grain was stolen, or whose children were kidnapped to be forcefully raised in foreign orphanages, taught a foreign language, and told to hate their own birth country and culture. You are not the one whose ancestors were starved by the millions in engineered famines, falsely convicted and executed in political purges, forced to fight in foreign armies, and had their personal, cultural, and political agency robbed from them over countless generations.
Well, Ukrainians *are* the ones to have experienced all this, and more. And they continue experiencing this day after day, with no end in sight, no hope of it ever ending unless they *force* the enemy to abandon his path of subjugation and murder.
So only Ukrainians get to decide how they fight Russia. Not armchair Listnook warriors.
Winston Churchill once quoted, "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the Devil". AI is today's Devil (and I'll leave to you to figure out who is today's Hitler), and Zelensky is doing exactly what the quote is saying, no more, no less.
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emperorsolo1 day ago
-23
And what happens if Palantir “accidentally “ hands over the keys to Putin?
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GeneReddit1231 day ago
+28
Then Ukraine would end up no worse off than if neither had the tech, wouldn't they?
A hypothetical of the form "don't develop new weapons against an enemy attacking you *right now*, because otherwise they might copy that weapon *one day* and use it back against you", doesn't work in wartime (or even in peacetime, for that matter).
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ezprt1 day ago
+7
For what gain?
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Genery_6191 day ago
+2
Total clustefuck
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Zetakin1 day ago
-16
Bruh, you don’t know me. Just get off your high Ukrainian horse. Palantir has its own interest in mind. These types of weapons will kill more and more civilians in the long run. As much as I side with Ukraine, this isn’t they way. Palantir has been using weapons in Gaza to kill civilians. F*** that company and any president who alignes with them. PS: I have lost many family members to a war, but since I’m brown, you white people don’t care. F*** off mate.
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Lonely_Ice59741 day ago
+9
You somehow forgot to mention basically most of EU which are in bed with Palantir and they dont even have an invasion to deal with. Again, the non existant critical thinking. Keep in mind that guns dont kill people, people kill people.
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Zetakin1 day ago
-5
Critical thinking said the guy who thinks it’s fine as long the evil is helping them kill another evil. The mindset of a shortsighted person.
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BestFriendWatermelon22 hr ago
+3
Ukraine is fighting for its survival against genocidal invaders who already killed 100,000s of their citizens, and who have promised mass executions and purging of Ukrainian culture if they defeat Ukraine. They're not giving up on using proven military services just because of conspiracy theories on the internet.
Not to mention that even if those theories are true, Palantir will still do them whether or not they get involved in Ukraine. Skynet is coming if it's coming, regardless of what happens in Ukraine.
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BeatTheMarket301 day ago
-7
Minerals deal with Trump is another good reason to get rid of him.
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Riptide36023 hr ago
Going to steal Ukraine’s secrets to give to Trump’s boss
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4everLost821 day ago
-9
DON'T DO IT Zelensky!!!!!
Ukranians are smart enough to figure out their own defense without turning to the literal father of Skynet.
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lolwatokay1 day ago
+25
They’ve been using their technology since literally the first month of the war. I don’t like seeing an expansion of its use, but to pretend that they haven’t already been using it extensively for years now is silly. See also: Starlink.
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No_Method598922 hr ago
+1
Not sure if this is great idea, but...hopefully..it's ok.
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SecretBotAcc18 hr ago
-1
Look, I hate Palantir, but whatever Mr. Zelensky uses to help his country is a win!
-1
happy-cig14 hr ago
Listnook loves Ukraine. Listnook hates pltr.
Does this make listnook think positively on pltr now?
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GeneReddit12314 hr ago
+3
No, this is just a DOES NOT COMPUTE moment for Listnook.
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mangun_aj1 day ago
-36
Whatever you think about the Palantir CEO (he's a very weird guy), I think over all its a very positive sign.
Seems like since Ukraine was pretty much the only country to help US during the Iran war (by providing anti-drone weapons, and defensive info), the ties are starting to form now. We may be going back to being allies soon. Hopefully.
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Ok-Anxiety81711 day ago
+23
Not exactly, Palantir CEO has been working with Ukraine since the war began in 2022, so the meeting itself is nothing new, and Ukraine has been using their systems for a long time. It seems like today's meeting was about taking stock and deepening cooperation
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Virtual_Medium_67211 day ago
+10
Most likely I think he's there cause if you want to test something for military purposes, at the moment there's no better place than the Ukraine war to do it
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008Zulu1 day ago
+8
It's really not. Palantir's CEO is close friends with Donald Trump, who is close friends with Putin. If Palantir get their hooks into Ukraine, it's all over for them.
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Friendly_Soil66171 day ago
+7
Friends are friends, but business is business. Palantir has already helped Ukraine take out a huge number of enemy troops. And there’s more to come.
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ObviousSheepherder2414 hr ago
+1
Ukraine is being treated as a sacrificial pawn and war laboratory in longer term game of force posturing. Their ingenuity and resilience have made them invaluable to the US government, but the US government is rapacious in its support. It's unclear how much the US actually wants to withdraw from NATO, but to whatever extent it does, or the EU wants to lean into independence from the US, the US would want be extra sure to have outsized influence in Ukraine, to exert power over Europe, Russia, maybe Turkey (on account of being Islamic-leaning), the Black Sea, etc.
Ukraine works fer better for the US as a stable but desperate proxy warrior state, like Israel, than as part of Russia, even if Russia were to deliver on exceptionally favorable resources deals. I don't think Putin could make him an offer he'd be confident enough in, and even if he did, I think Trump's broader cohort would call bullshit.
As to it being a good thing: the Ukrainian people, and a just government by and for them, stands a better chance with the US as an explorative ally than with Russia as a ruler, but every day the disparity becomes less obvious, precisely because of the overtly fascist goals and methods of the US government, and it's staunch allies in big tech and defense. Where things get complicated is that IF they're going to be stuck under an explorative dictator, it would actually be preferable for them to be under a weaker one, because they'd have a better shot of subsequently overcoming it.
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KeepCalmCarryOnKY1 day ago
-4
What happens when one country using AI fights another country with AI....nuclear apocalypse?
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BeatTheMarket301 day ago
-31
Zelensky should fund his Palantir deals with his own money, not EUs. He needs to be reminded of that.
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
+6
On what grounds?
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BeatTheMarket301 day ago
-4
Palantir isn't a trustworthy company any European country should be signing contracts with.
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
+7
I don’t like the guy at the top, but I’m also not seeing how it’s any different from any other military contractor.
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